Iron Man and Gobby bombing him from the sky, Spider Man and Thing pounding away on him, Wolverine? Dude, Prime aint that prime.
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It won't be that lopsided. You seem to forget how freakishly powerful Optimus Prime is. Not on a level close to his G1 counterpart, but he's definitely on the level of movie Hulk.
It goes either way.
I say Prime takes this with noticeable difficulty. Let's say he goes on top of a building. People like Wolverine and Thing won't be able to get to him. Storm is the best bet. If she can create a bunch of powerful tornadoes like in X2 they might last awhile.
LOL at the fact that Wolverine is of any major significance here. Thing? Temporarily BFR will do. Serious Prime faces much stronger opponents. Green Goblin bombs are going to hurt Prime. These things take F-22 missiles. The big guns are Iron Man and Storm. The rest are there for support. This is no spite.
I doubt it. Prime's energon blades would make short work of Hulk. I'm not even sure if Hulk is stronger than Prime at base form.
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This definitely isn't spite.1. Physically useless, probably dies horribly, might have tactical utility.
2. Absolutely needs to stay high in the air. At close range he'll get cleaved in two, if he isn't constantly moving he's going to get blown apart by one of Prime's guns. His wrist-rocket and repulsors are obviously going to be his most useful contribution to the team.
3. Definitely useful. Lightning strikes are almost certainly going to hit Prime hard. However, she is the least durable of the Marvels; even the shockwave and debris from a moderately close blast will either incapacitate or kill her, so like Iron Man she needs to stay very high in the air or take cover at a distance. Even then, her utility is limited by the fact that Prime can throw himself into one of the buildings for protection against the lightning, at least in the first scenario, and the loss of precision that would come with increases in distance would make Storm almost as much a danger to her teammates as she would be to Prime.
4. Not all that useful here. Prime appears to be significantly stronger, is definitely significantly larger, and is equipped with guns that could potentially kill one-shot Grimm and energon blades that definitely could.
5. Webbing fails against an astoundingly agile giant transforming robot equipped with the equivalent of car-sized lightsabers and hand cannons. I can see Spiderman being strong enough to do aesthetic damage to Prime, and arguably even rip out his optics, but I highly doubt he can latch on to Prime's head long enough to do that. As with all the above, a shot or slash from the weapons kills him, and blunt force trauma - acknowledging the ridiculous amounts he's survived before - won't exactly be comfortable.
6. Not terribly useful.
7. His weapons don't appear to be nearly strong enough to do much to Prime, and he won't be doing much in melee combat; he isn't as agile as Spiderman and he can't stick to things, so once his weapons run out he's basically fodder, like Wolverine.
8. Too slow, too weak. He's one of the first to die.
This is a massacre. Prime doesn't stand a chance. Take out Spiderman, Wolverine, Iron man and Green Goblin and then Optimus would probably win. Otherwise there is no chance. Did anyone else see how vulnerable the Transformers were to military weaponry in, Revenge of the Fallen?
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I'm not sure of your team there. Why didn't you list and characters that could account for size? Size isn't everything but Goliath and Giant-Man would be essential to make sure Optimus doesn't just step on everybody.
And why Gotham? Excuse me if I have a too far-out idea here, but how about set it in New York?
Ang-Hulk survived a gamma-bomb at ground zero and ripped out the side of a rock cliff (which probably weighs as much as Prime) and hammer-curled 65s ton well over a mile, this is what you have to top before you make such claims.
Definitely, I would say.
About the only thing to destroy even bits of him, was Megatron's Fusion cannon taking out an arm once, and when he was detonated in one lame assed storyline (so he could be bought back as powermaster Prime bunch of issues after.)
Aside from that his feats and effectiveness against the deceps were numerous and impressive.
The humans were unable to mess with transformers also, in the comic. (Circuit breaker was almost the only human who did.)
Prime once took out Soundwave, Rumble, Laserbeak, Starscream, Skywarp and Thundercracker in one effort to rescue a captured and barbarically tortured Bumblebee.
Most of those were with his bare hands after Starscream and the other jets ambushed Prime in the desert.
(If memory serves, he did it one handedly, as his shoulder was damaged by one of the jets letting rip with at close range.)
That story was "Crisis of Command".
If McClane and John Wayne had an Autobot lovechild, It'd have been G1 comic Prime.
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Spiderman momentarily was able to web Megatron up issue number three in the comic. Megatron was able to break free of it eventually.. he ripped the webbing off (being much more powerful than the one in Bayformers), but it was a good ploy to buy time for a Gears and Buster to try to get away.
And Megatron was fiercely powerful and slightly insane.....perhaps slightly more powerful than Prime.
I doubt this team will be able to bring down Prime. The only big guns here are Storm and Iron Man. All you people who claim spite, I wish you'd take the time to explain why.
I said I doubt Hulk is stronger than Prime at his base form. In all of those instances you specified Hulk had considerable amount of time to grow from anger. I have no doubt Prime could throw a tank. The mere landing of some of these Transformers caused cars to fly. Prime is a much better fighter, has a long range advantage, and is smarter. Hulk advantages are likely being stronger after a period of time, can leap, and is faster(capable of running at speeds up to 300mph).
I think Prime would beat Hulk. But that's totally off-topic.
You are sverely underestimating Prime. What is Wolverine going to do exactly? Compared to Prime his claws are like toothpicks.
Your welcome to explain.
Spider-Man is quite strong. He may get into Prime's armor but would likely be slapped off. Wolverine can't do much unless Thing throws him. Goblin's missiles are worse than grenades. Prime would laugh at them and his machine guns.
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I saw the marines causing some significant damage to the transformers in, Revenge of the Fallen. That is besides the point though. Wolverine will leap onto Optimus and cut his shit into pieces.
I'm not sure whether or not i'd be willing to wager that Spiderman or Green Goblin alone could take down Optimus. Spiderman probably could but either way these two will offer incredible support to any team. They both would force Primes attention and since their agility allows them to dodge any long range attacks from Prime. Any attacks focused on them will leave him vulnerable. Spiderman could dodge Primes attacks all day and Goblin can just fly around, staying out of Primes close range attacks, hurling bombs at him all day.
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