Wilson Fisk vs Frank Castle h2h

Have a feeling this has been done, but I can't find.

This is from the Daredevil show (Because I guess even tv fights get posted here, according to what I'm told after posting in TV and Foreign cinema?) straight h2h, Castle before he found the weapons cache.

Who win?

fisk is much stronger but frank can fight dirty...absolutely no weapons of any kind available to punisher and i gotta go with kingpin

I think Fisk wins a brutal, bloody, h2h fight against Castle...

Fisk is gonna be hurtin bad at the end, but I see him slowly rising to his feet (Franks body motionless on the ground before him) with a bloody smile on his face...

Fisk wins...

Frank can take so much of a beating that I see him ripping Fisk's throat out or clawing his eyes to jelly before the big guy takes him down.

Yeah, the tv show has Frank down to a T, damage soak and all. He had weapons, but Matt couldn't seem to put him down.

While Fisk seems a bit watered down, compared to the comics. Still very impressive, but not a monster.

Fisk got the best of Frank in their prison fight, imo...based on points.

Originally posted by relentless1
fisk is much stronger but frank can fight dirty...absolutely no weapons of any kind available to punisher and i gotta go with kingpin

Fisk wasn't fighting for keeps and still beat Frank.

Wasn't Frank massively weakened by a fight/beating not long before the scrap with Fisk?

It could be argued, but it wasn't really hinted at.

Originally posted by KingD19
Frank can take so much of a beating that I see him ripping Fisk's throat out or clawing his eyes to jelly before the big guy takes him down.

Even though I disagree with you about the outcome of this fight, I 100% agree with you about Franks damage soak; that man can withstand more punishment than Rocky Balboa...

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Originally posted by KingD19
Wasn't Frank massively weakened by a fight/beating not long before the scrap with Fisk?

Yes, and if I remember correctly, Frank was in chains so he couldnt fight as hard as he would have liked to...

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Fisk got the best of Frank in their prison fight, imo...based on points.

But to play Devils Advocate against my own belief that Fisk wins, wasnt Frank weakened and in chains during their prison fight?

Hey Frank took the first punch.

Good fight. I want to say Fisk, but it could go either way.

Frank was able to give Fisk a good fight despite being in chains and just having been in a prison fight with a bunch of convicts and beat up by guards. A fit and fully healthy Frank should be able to beat Kingpin though will have to work for it.

Originally posted by KingD19
Wasn't Frank massively weakened by a fight/beating not long before the scrap with Fisk?

Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. Frank had just recently fought and killed how many inmates just before his "fight" with Fisk, who was fresh as a daisy. Clearly that wasnt Frank fighting at full strength there.

This would be a good fight IMO. Fisk got the better of Frank in prison but, as people have mentioned, Punisher wasn't quite at 100%, and handicapped by the cuffs. That being said, Fisk did seem confident enough to believe he could handle Frank should they go for round two, when Fisk told his guys to uncuff him and back away from them. Also, he took a combo of hits that I think would have at least momentarily knocked Matt on his ass, and barely stumbled. He isn't some skilled martial artist, but he has enough brawling ability, coupled with his sheer size and strength, to make him a very dangerous opponent. That being said, Frank is one extremely tough bastard himself, a highly skilled fighter, and I honestly would not put it past him to tear someone's throat out with his teeth if necessary. In the end I probably give Punisher a slight majority.

Punisher was also stabbed in the forearm with a long shank besides being chained and hurting from fighting multiple prisoners. And also had that drill to the foot injury.

Even for Frank after all that combined I would say he wasn't even at 50%. He's a tough bastard, but fighting through all that definitely put him at a huge disadvantage, even for someone as baws as him.

Let's swap their places. Say Fisk got into a fight with multiple prisoners with weapons, gets stabbed in the arm, then gets beaten up by guards so badly that they need to drag him out. Then put him in handcuffs. You think he'd be able to put up much of a fight against a fully healthy Frank? Does he even survive the fight with the prisoners?