Figured it was high time somebody made this thread.
Fight takes place in Grandmaster's arena. Standard gear. Opponents know nothing about each other but are intent on killing each other. Fight ends when a combatant is no longer able to continue. Who wins?
I have a quetion. In star wars there are dark and light side nexuses which amp the power of the Jedi and the sith. While on these nexuses they are able to perform feats they wouldn't normally be able to accomplish outside of said nexus.
For the purpose of our SW vs debates, characters "nexus" feats are inadmissable when the battle takes place in a neutral arena absent of a nexus.
Would the same go for hela here for her feats while in Asgard, the place of her power? Was the power she was absorbing from Asgard a permanent amp, or when she leaves Asgard does the amp instantly go away also like a sw nexus, Or would it slowly diminish like a superman sun dip?
I only saw Ragnarock once so I don't remember all the details and exact wording of how Asgard powering her works. If anyone has any thoughts on it I'd be happy to hear them.
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Well, I don't recall them ever specifically addressing what happens when she leaves. They just kept mentioning how she draws her power from Asgard, and the longer she remains there, the stronger she becomes. I don't think they ever tell us whether her power diminishes over time once she leaves, or whether it just keeps rising to new levels every time she visits Asgard.
Anyway, she kicks Steppenwolf's ass.
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When Hela is away from Asgard her powers are limited. However she is still VERY POWERFUL.
Thor and Loki couldn't defeat her even away from Asgard. Hela also destroyed Mjolnir outside Asgard, which points at her already being very powerful even away from her source of power.
When Hela is in asgard her powers increase even further to a point in where destroying Asgard is the best way to limit her.
Still without Asgard Hela is very powerful. Even after Surtur Destroyed Asgard, Hela might still be alive or have survived.
I doubt Hela died in Ragnarok...considering we never saw a body.
Power dynamics in Asgard is kind of weird though. Because Thor's wording also implies that the spell Loki used when he dumped Odin on Earth actually depowered him as well (at least for as long as the spell lasted). IIRC, Thor claimed that Loki "stripped" him of his power. Yet Loki likely does not have anywhere near Odin's level of power.
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Thanks for the responses Vault and Josh. So in your opinions for the purpose of vs debates here, would u place something like her duribility in a neutral setting equal to what she would have on Asgard? Would she be able to withstand a blast as powerful as the lightning blast he hit her with at the end when he "unlocked" his power if she was outside of Asgard?
I was also thinking along the same line for her ability to summon a seemingly infinite amount of those daggers. Could she do the same somewhere else.
I remember her using them when she slaughtered the Valkyries (which I believe was off asgard) but I don't know how long she was away from asgard when that fight took place, what her power levels we're at before she was banished or how much they may have diminished if any in the time in between.
I'm a bit torn on the matter. But I'm leaning towards her retaining the power she absorbes (maybe not infinitely but for a while at least) as opposed to an instant diminish.
The movie never gave us a quantifiable response as to how much Hela's powers increase in Asgard.
I would say that Hela's speed, durability, and number of weapons she can pull out are increased dramatically when in Asgard.
However, in the movie we are also told how Odin himself had to lock Hela in a pocket dimension in order to stop her. So we can assume that a Hela outside Asgard is = in power to that of Odin!
Regarding Thor. I doubt Godlike Thor could defeat Hela with a Lightning considering Thor is quite a noob with his current powers.
Until Thor=Odin in power then Thor could trully rival Hela's power.
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