This contest is meant to find out who's the best melee fighter among all the Jedi's and Sith. Each fighter will fight a one on one duel with each of the other combatants in a round robin tournament. Fighter with the most wins win. Fighters get healed after every fight.
Rules:
- no force powers allowed other than their natural battle precog
- each combatant is armed with their ligthtsabers as seen in their movies
- fighters are allowed to engage in h2h combat if they prefer
- feats from movies only, no clone wars.
List who you think wins the top 3 spots? If you're up to it, list the overall rankings.
The fighters:
1. Qui Gon
2. Obi Wan
3. Anakin (pre Vader)
4. Yoda
5. Mace Windu
6. Luke Skywalker
7. Rey
8. Darth Maul
9. Darh Vader
10. Darth Sidius
11. General Grevious
12. Count Dooku
13. Kylo Ren
He bested Sidious in a few minutes when Yoda stalemated him after a long time. Sidious killed 3 Jedi Masters instantly while fighting them simultaneously.
The reason Mace is so dangerous in a dual, was because of his force fighting style. Forgot the name, but when Mace fights any Sith, the stronger they use the dark side, the easier it is for Mace to best them.
Sidious allowed himself to be disarmed in his fight with Mace in order to force Anakin hand, this is presented quite clearly in ROTS to those who are paying attention.
Sidious and Yoda are most likely tied in for 1st with Yoda possibly being a shade better.
heres all the evidence that appears onscreen in ROTS:
1. Sidious lets Anakin tell the Jedi Council about him, why would he let him do that if he wasn't setting him up for a choice?
2. When Anakin is sitting by himself in the council chamber you can hear Sidious in his head telling him the ultimatum "if I die, any chance to save her will be lost" and this is obviously not Anakin just thinking about what Sidious said because it contains completely new information that Palpatine didn't tell Anakin when they were face to face
3. Sidious kills 2 Jedi masters before Mace can even bring his blade into a defensive stance, ergo, Sidious is much faster than Windu.
4. right after he kills Fisto Sidious had Mace at blade point and doesn't thrust into a kill stroke when we know by his initial burst forward engaging the 4 masters that he's capable of doing so, why? because he's not trying to kill Mace, he's stalling for Anakins arrival.
5. when he is disarmed and backed off by Windu into a corner that just so happens to coincide with awakens arrival. In other words, from Anakins POV all he sees is Windu stalking a "helpless" Chancellor with his lightsaber aimed to kill, the Chancellor even says as much to Anakin, "help me, the Jedi are taking over!!"
6. the entire reasoning behind Palpatine unleashing lightning on mace is simple: when Mace had Sid at blade point he was still willing to arrest him, which wouldn't do for Sidious' plan to turn Anakin, he needed him to make a choice right then and there: his wife or the Jedi essentially. So he pushed Mace into wanting to kill him by unleashing Force Lightning on him, he makes it seem as if he's just defending himself from death: "don't let him kill mee" "i can't hold on any longer" "I'm too weak" Notice that its only after the lightning barrage that Mace is resolute on killing the Chancellor, thus provoking Anakin into making a snap decision.
Sidious can forsee the future, this is established throughout the 6 episodes, thats no different here, the Sith need to go through a trial of betrayal in order to become a true Sith Lord; Dooku did it by killing Sifo Dyas, Palpatine did it by killing his family, Anakin did it by killing Mace Windu...It all links up way too perfectly to think anything other than Palpatine orchestrated the entire exchange between himself and Mace Windu for the singular purpose of finally turning Anakin away from the Jedi and into a Sith Lord.
PS his melted face can be looked at in one of two ways: if you believe that is his real face then it getting exposed is no biggie, if you believe that his face really did get mangled then Sidious would still be ok with it as it was physical evidence of the attempted assassination on him by the Jedi. Either way a ****ed up face worked into his plan rather nicely as a bit of "evidence" of Jedi betrayal
And we do see Sidious not using his Saber later on, while Yoda was still using his. So either Yoda disarmed him or Sidious opted out of the Saber fight.
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