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MCU Killmonger vs. MCU Captain America

Round 1: H2H only (No suit for Erik)
Round 2: Erik has the nanite suit/knives

Who wins


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Steve wins round 1.

Killmonger takes round 2.


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has killmonger eaten the herb?? cuz if so i could see him beating cap in both

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Wait. You have two arguably top tier fighters, and you want to give just ONE of them an indestructible suit?

What am i missing?


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has killmonger eaten the herb?? cuz if so i could see him beating cap in both


Well, if your don't mind spoilers:

[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Yes, he takes the heart-shaped herb at a point in the film, gaining comparable stats to Black Panther/Super Soldiers.


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Cap takes round 1, handily.

Does he get his shield in 2? If so, it'll be a long match.

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How is he taking it handily?

Killmonger outskilled Tchalla


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He outskilled T'challa after T'challa lost the heart shaped herb's powers, so he also may have had a physical edge... he certainly looked stronger.

Still though, T'challa doesn't (yet) have the physical or skill feats to match up to Cap, so it's a moot point. And Killmonger definitely didn't do anything to stack up against, say, Cap's elevator fight.

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Still though, T'challa doesn't (yet) have the physical or skill feats to match up to Cap, so it's a moot point. And Killmonger definitely didn't do anything to stack up against, say, Cap's elevator fight.



Cap doesnt have the agility/acrobatic physicality BP does.

Nor does he have the durability.

And BP is plenty skilled.

BP wins regardless of Cap having his Shield or not.

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Well, if your don't mind spoilers:

[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Yes, he takes the heart-shaped herb at a point in the film, gaining comparable stats to Black Panther/Super Soldiers.


yes im aware of that what i was asking is this him fighting with or without that in his system cuz obviously it makes a big difference

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Well, I assume he does, or round 1 would be epic spite. It'd be Cap vs a skilled but unarmed human. And we have seen how that goes on more than one occasion.


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yeah, I could see killmonger being a great matchup for Cap even unarmed

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Well, round 1 should be a close match, but Steve just has too many H2H feats against not only people on his own level, but above (like Spidey, Ultron and IM) as well. Which is why I am backing him there. But yeah, the two of them should be close enough that giving Killmonger the suit tips it solidly in his favour.


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Cap doesnt have the agility/acrobatic physicality BP does.


I was arguing this same point the other day with someone.

But then that he was all like "can you give me A physical feat Tchalla has done that Cap couldn't replicate?

The debate is still on going.

Got any way to prove that statement?


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I was arguing this same point the other day with someone.

But then that he was all like "can you give me A physical feat Tchalla has done that Cap couldn't replicate?

The debate is still on going.

Got any way to prove that statement?




Just showings. We never see much from Cap in that aspect.

His best acrobatic move I can think of was that twirl he did against Spider-Man.

He also struggles when surrounded by machine gun fire. He cant/doesnt Just leap and flip to avoid them, but instead needs to heavily rely on his Shield.

BP’s scene from the trailer flipping over cars is a good one (and he has way more of that in the film).

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Just showings. We never see much from Cap in that aspect.

His best acrobatic move I can think of was that twirl he did against Spider-Man.

He also struggles when surrounded by machine gun fire. He cant/doesnt Just leap and flip to avoid them, but instead needs to heavily rely on his Shield.

BP’s scene from the trailer flipping over cars is a good one (and he has way more of that in the film).


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Cap takes the H2H.

If Cap has his shied, he takes round 2 as well.

Otherwise, shieldless cap loses round 2.


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Just showings. We never see much from Cap in that aspect.

His best acrobatic move I can think of was that twirl he did against Spider-Man.

He also struggles when surrounded by machine gun fire. He cant/doesnt Just leap and flip to avoid them, but instead needs to heavily rely on his Shield.

BP’s scene from the trailer flipping over cars is a good one (and he has way more of that in the film).


Then re-watch Cap taking down the quinjet in Winter Soldier. He shows off plenty acrobatics.

Not that it matters in a h2h fight anyways, Black Panther's acrobatics isn't going to give him an edge. Cap's style might seem less flashy, but it's been just as effective, if not more, in the movies.

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Cap can't beat the suits kinetic absorbtion abilities. Even if he gets the shield, BP's suit stood up to vibranium swords. Killmonger could just let Cap hit him and still win.

Round 1 is a damn good fight though.


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Then re-watch Cap taking down the quinjet in Winter Soldier. He shows off plenty acrobatics.

Not that it matters in a h2h fight anyways, Black Panther's acrobatics isn't going to give him an edge. Cap's style might seem less flashy, but it's been just as effective, if not more, in the movies.



Not on the level of BP or Spider-Man.

It WILL make a difference in a fight. Look how Spidey played Winter Soldier and Falcon in ways Cap never could.

Plus theres BPs durability.

BP or Killmonger win with the suit. No question.

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