What did Qui Gon do to impress people? Fought some droids. Got killed by Darth Maul.
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Obi Wan, in every single era of his career was suseptable to force powers while in combat. He has been force TKd and disabled in literally every fight he ever had against a sith on screen with the exception of an old aged vader.
Ren will ragdoll him.
We're left with Qui Gon holding his own for an extended battle against Maul, who is beyond anyone weve seen Rae and Ren fight, but then they have fought eachother, if that counts for anything.
I bring this up to draw attention to the fact that Maul never attempted a TK push on Qui Gon. Now its totally interpretation from here on out, that if he COULD jave gotten the upper hand against QG with the force, he would have. Perhaps we can assume Maul sensed QG was not suseptable to such an attack?
If QG has a better force defense than Obi Wan, id say he outskills Ren in combat, leaving obi wan to outskill rae, because she has not demonstrated a force push or forrce lift while in combat.
And Maul in the movies wasn't that impressive. They had a brief fight in the desert.
The circumstances that caused him to lose were that he was forced to fight Maul alone. Obi Wan was blocked off, and he died.
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From a "moves-only" canon it seems clear that PT duelists are far beyond Kylo and Rey. Maybe team 1 will actually try to use telekinesis in combat when they conveniently don't against the cheap-man's-red-guards, in which case it becomes a little less clear.
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Actually it was more of Qui Gon's fighting style and age that made him lose. Maul had the terrain advantage due to Qui Gon's fighting Style being inappropiate for it.
This can clearly be noticed, since Obi Wan was able to defeat Maul due to having a different fighting style to Qui Gon's.
This match however i believe is in an open terrain, where Qui Gon's fighting style suits him well, just like we saw it in the dessert.
Kylo and Rey sucked. They get slaughtered. Even if they had Snoke on their team. The Last Jedi had the lamest force users ever. They sucked with Sabers and did nothing special with the force .
Obi Wan defeated Maul with a well time shot and a lot of luck. Prior to that, Maul already had him beat. So it wasn't his fighting style at all that gave him the win.
Okay I guess thinking about it...Kylo lost to someone who had never even used a lightsaber before. That's kinda sad actually.
So I don't think Qui Gon necessarily has to be awesome to win.
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