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Shuri vs. Tony Stark


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Shuri.


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Stark. Shuri had the advantage of having generations of Wakandan scientists already developing their technology and helping her out. Plus a lot of her inventions were dependent on vibranium.

Stark created his first suit w/ scrap materials in a cave while held captive.


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Who is the better inventor?


Stark. The IM suit is arguably more advanced than T'Challa's.


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Hard to say. They're both brilliant. I guess I would say Stark. The arc reactor could legitimately change the world and solve the energy crisis in one fell swoop if he wanted it to.

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The arc reactor alone should make Stark win this by default IMO. He's also leagues more resourceful and his inventor stem solely from him whereas Shuri did have groundwork before her to go off of.

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Hard to say. They're both brilliant. I guess I would say Stark. The arc reactor could legitimately change the world and solve the energy crisis in one fell swoop if he wanted it to.


Also Stark's suits have AI whereas BP's don't.

JARVIS and FRIDAY are both above any modern computer AI.


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Well, problem with Shuri is that we can't really know how far she'd go without vibranium being the miracle deus ex metal that it is.

I'd say Stark. But if she did all this without the use of vibranium, I'd actually give the edge her in many areas (such as: shield tech, healing and telecommunication).

But, as it is, Stark.

Imagine what Stark could do with an unlimited supply of vibranium along with wakanda's longtime knowledge/experience in its use combined with Pym particles.

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Well, problem with Shuri is that we can't really know how far she'd go without vibranium being the miracle deus ex metal that it is.

I'd say Stark. But if she did all this without the use of vibranium, I'd actually give the edge her in many areas (such as: shield tech, healing and telecommunication).

But, as it is, Stark.

Imagine what Stark could do with an unlimited supply of vibranium along with wakanda's longtime knowledge/experience in its use combined with Pym particles.


Shuri is more like a general Scientist. She doesnt only develops weapons but also applies her knowledge in medicine and other fields.

Shuri is very smart besides pretty. But as many claim, her knowledge comes from her ancestors and vibranium's multiroles.

Stark on the other hand is 100% responsible of his acts. Stark developed the Iron Man suit which is the most advanced weapon in earth. He created AIs which reassemble human inteligence. The Hulkbuster armor, a behemoth when compared to his other models.

Other feats like creating the Helicarriers and participating im the creation of many of SHIELD's tech.

You also have him creating a new element which makes him basically a genus.

Shuri just doesnt have enough featd to counter that.


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Imagine what Stark could do with an unlimited supply of vibranium along with wakanda's longtime knowledge/experience in its use combined with Pym particles.


A zany suit-building montage? stick out tongue


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Stark. Shuri had the advantage of having generations of Wakandan scientists already developing their technology and helping her out. Plus a lot of her inventions were dependent on vibranium.

Stark created his first suit w/ scrap materials in a cave while held captive.


This. Stark is hands down the better inventor, over all intelligence is up in the air IMO.


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Shuri.

Stark didn't create the arc reactor, his company did. he made a smaller version of it which is impressive enough but the blueprints on how to do it were already done in the larger version, you cant say Shuri stood on the shoulders of her predecessors and give Tony this feat at the same time.

He created the Iron Man suit which is a fancy piece of tech granted but Wakanda is arguably more advanced than Tonys tech.

Also if youre trying to downplay shuris accomplishments with the argument that its all because of the vibranium then you'd have to take away tonys wealth on the other side because he arguably wouldn't have accomplished half of his invention without unlimited cash either.

Take both characters with all their advantages and shuri comes out ahead because Wakandas general tech is on par with if not more advanced than tonys suit as a comparison

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If we were to drop Shuri and Tony in a massive junkyard, with no equipment whatsoever, and told them they had 1 week to build a robot to fight against each other - I'm pretty sure Tony would easily win that.


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Shuri.

Stark didn't create the arc reactor, his company did. he made a smaller version of it which is impressive enough but the blueprints on how to do it were already done in the larger version, you cant say Shuri stood on the shoulders of her predecessors and give Tony this feat at the same time.

He created the Iron Man suit which is a fancy piece of tech granted but Wakanda is arguably more advanced than Tonys tech.

Also if youre trying to downplay shuris accomplishments with the argument that its all because of the vibranium then you'd have to take away tonys wealth on the other side because he arguably wouldn't have accomplished half of his invention without unlimited cash either.

Take both characters with all their advantages and shuri comes out ahead because Wakandas general tech is on par with if not more advanced than tonys suit as a comparison


If Shuri only wins because she has better resources, then how is she the better inventor?


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Stark. The IM suit is arguably more advanced than T'Challa's.


The Panther suit fits into a necklace. Starks suit has more gadgets and weapons in it because its an actual suit of armor, but Shuri's design wasn't going for something like that.


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The New Iron Man suit fits in his Arc Reactor. It is very possible he got the technology from Shuri.


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The New Iron Man suit fits in his Arc Reactor. It is very possible he got the technology from Shuri.
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I doubt that. If Shuri would have such tech, we would see black panther flying and shooting lasers from his hands and chest laughing out loud


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Also if youre trying to downplay shuris accomplishments with the argument that its all because of the vibranium then you'd have to take away tonys wealth on the other side because he arguably wouldn't have accomplished half of his invention without unlimited cash either.


Ehhh, Shuri has practically unlimited cash too.


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Ehhh, Shuri has practically unlimited cash too.


Yeah, arguably Tony does too.


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Tony's suits defy the laws of physics lol. Given how/from where we've seen the armour pop out, collapse, fold, how it forms around him etc. there is absolutely no way it could hold all the weapons it does while maintaining all the functionality and protection it does.

Though, TBF, it's not like Wakandan tech is particularly realistic.


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