Thor was winning in Ragnarok without his magical hammer/s. He definitely wins.
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This implies that Hulk in Ragnarok was somehow weaker than Avengers? Thor fought a Hulk that was far more experienced and skilled compared to the Avengers 1 version.
Youll see.. Hulk is on the verge of a complete character change.
In Avengers 1 and 2 he was presented as the angry unpredictable and explosive beast we all know. Yet in Ragnarok and Infinity War Hulk has clearly evolved...He has become conscious.
Although Hulk is 'an adult' in a physical form, he is clearly a child (mentally). I think this is a weakness. He isn't longer the fearless wrathfull beast, at least for now. Hulk's strength has always been in that, his unlimited anger and the relation it holds with his power.
Clearly Hulk has grown weaker. See Infinity War. Hulk was childish! He refused to appear, just because Thanos defeated him.
Now, am not saying he will remain so! HELL NO! Hulk is evolving mentally. I believe he will mature and finally manage to reach the perfect balance between intellingence and that unlimited anger!
Round 1: Thor beats up Hulk for about 3/4 of the match till Hulk eventually gets Thor on his back then he'll proceed to ground and pound the sh!t out of him.
Remember, we are using Hulk at his highest feats in the 2nd fight.
Did Hulk show any amount of damage when he got shot by all those blasts?
Someone said he did, I don't remember.
Imo Hulk was stronger in Avengers 1 than IW or Ragnarok. I could be wrong.
The way he treated Loki is not the way he would treat Thor. But Thor didn't appear to be much more physically powerful than Loki in their scuffle. Therefore we get contradictions (as they occur often in fiction).
So? Thor's far more skilled, just as durable (I dk if Hulk can even KO him in lighting mode), and hits even harder with his lighting amped punches. If that fight continued, he'd have gotten beat up.
FUN FACT: In the Ragnarok script, it says that Thor and Hulk were boxing each other punch FOR punch IIRC and Thor was winning in lighting mode. He was going Apollo Creed on that ass. How badass would've it been to have Thor tank Hulk's punch to the face while standing and then flooring him with a much harder lighting punch?
Yes, he did, that was kind of the point of the scene.
That...isn't true. He's actually more dangerous now...that was the point. It's not a contradiction. Loki is nowhere near as physically powerful as Thor. Hulk ragdolled Thor exactly like he did Loki, and its a scene that's directly referenced in the moment, and Thor wasn't even stunned, while Loki was reeling. It's further confirmation that Thor would destroy Loki in a fight when serious....which we already knew.
You are missing the point. It's my belief that, at his highest showings, Avengers 1 Hulk is much more powerful (durability and strength) than Ragnarok Hulk.
You keep making comparisons to Ragnarok Hulk (which defeats the point of the thread).
And this is why he wins both. Hulk had been Hulk for 2 years and was literally murdering everyone he fought. He was at his peak thus far in the MCU and Thor was winning. Therefore, IW Thor beats both Hulks.
__________________ "Your mother was a venereal disease-ridden prostitute who was raped by the father you never knew and killed herself when she saw what an autistic phaggot you are.
So what about my comments made your ass so sore? Was it me calling you a phaggot? I think not." - Nemebro