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Who is the More VILLAINOUS! Joker or Thanos?

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Well? Which Character is actually the more THE VILLAIN?


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Which Character is actually more EVIL!?

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This is hard to judge, because they have very different mindsets.

Thanos was very cold and calculated, and had a very specific/plan goal in mind.

The Joker, in comparison:



If we're going by destructive scale, Thanos wins. However, while the Joker didn't kill as many people, he corrupted someone into becoming a villain, which is another kind of evil in itself.


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Kind of true, but if you have each the Inf Stones. Who would do the more EVIL things with it?


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Well, we already know Thanos chose to commit universal-scale genocide. That's pretty far up there in terms of evil acts.

I am not sure the Joker would do something like that. Like he said, he's a dog chasing cars. If he caught one, what would he actually do with it? Joker seems like the kind of guy that, if he actually collected all the Stones, he'd try and have them destroyed or something just to troll anyone else who might want them for other plans.


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Could Thano's reasoning behind his Genocide be considered truly Evil though or just horribly misguided?


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Well, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Doesn't matter how he tries to justify it, mass-murder of innocents on a universal scale is phucked up.

Now, if it is a question of who does things specifically for bad reasons, then it's the Joker. Because he does things for the sake of causing chaos and destruction. Thanos actually thought he was doing the right thing.


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Joker easily, he actually did stuff for the chaos and malice of it all. Thanos thought he was doing a good thing and he arguably was... You wouldn't see Joker cry having to kill somebody like Thanos did and you wouldn't see Joker even claiming to have any loved ones... except for his fake stories wink

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Thanos has some redeeming qualities and humanity in him.

The Joker is pure, unrestrained evil, with the only limitations to his malice being physical.

In terms of who is more villainous or evil, Joker easily.


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If Joker has the IG he would literally torture the Galaxy.

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An argument could be made that the Joker isn't actually evil, he's just crazy.


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I look at it in D&D terms (yup, time to get extra nerdy).

Joker
Alignment: Chaotic Evil

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Alignment: Lawful Evil


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I look at it in D&D terms (yup, time to get extra nerdy).

Joker
Alignment: Chaotic Evil

Thanos
Alignment: Lawful Evil


100% agreed...

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Thanos thinks he's doing the right thing in his mind, so he's absolutely Lawful Evil as he's fully willing to hurt or kill anyone in his path to achieve his "greater good"...

Joker, on the other hand, knows what he does is completely and utterly wrong and doesn't give a d@m...


As a result, Joker is far more evil than Thanos...


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Thanos is dumb enough to believe he's doing something worth while. Joker just likes to burn shit.

Joker is more villainous, Thanos more naive.


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If Joker has the IG he would literally torture the Galaxy.
Yep. Joker is chaotic evil. Thanos is neutral evil.


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Thanos is dumb enough to believe he's doing something worth while. Joker just likes to burn shit.

Joker is more villainous, Thanos more naive.
I wouldn't go that far. Thanos is far from Dumb or naive. I think we're gonna get good reasoning for why he thought his was was the only way in the next film. IW certainly sets it up like there will be an explanation anyway.


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Originally posted by Darth Thor
If Joker has the IG he would literally torture the Galaxy.


There is no "if" lol. When the Joker got cosmic power(A 5D imps power) he did exactly that. Except not the galaxy, the universe.


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I wouldn't go that far. Thanos is far from Dumb or naive. I think we're gonna get good reasoning for why he thought his was was the only way in the next film. IW certainly sets it up like there will be an explanation anyway.


I'm sure he thinks he has a good reason for it. Probably thinks he is fulfilling some cosmic balance or some silly shit.


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Well, in a way, that's exactly what it was. He thought the universe had an overpopulation problem and not enough resources to go around. So, he decided to balance out the consumer-consumable ratio, so to speak.


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Well, in a way, that's exactly what it was. He thought the universe had an overpopulation problem and not enough resources to go around. So, he decided to balance out the consumer-consumable ratio, so to speak.


Seems like he's just looking for excuses to be an evil dick. The IG could have solved that problem in loads of ways that didn't involve killing half the universe.

It's making me wish they just went with "he just wants to please death".


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