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Iron Man vs. Luke Cage/Iron fist

The Suit case suit XLVI from Civil War

Same circumstances as the Bunker fight in Civil award

Round 1: H2H
Round 2: Tony can use his weapons


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The Suit case suit XLVI from Civil War

Same circumstances as the Bunker fight in Civil award

Round 1: H2H
Round 2: Tony can use his weapons


H2H is where the real fight will take place.

Cage struggled with Diamondback.
Iron Fist should be beast, but i dont see him penetrating the suit.

Can Tony fly?

Weapons Tony should obliterate.


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Hmmm... 7 episodes into s2, so haven't got to any Iron Fist yet (though articles and photos released like a month or two ago implied at least a cameo). Luke has definitely shown a very clear improvement in both fighting skill and speed though. It's almost like he's a different guy to the one we saw in JJ s1, LC s1, and the Defenders in that regard. Guess going full-time hero has helped him dust off his skills a bit. Take the [SPOILER - highlight to read]: bridge rematch between him and Bushmaster. He showed various striking, grappling, throwing techniques, a bit of ground game, as well as different counters and such, or when he initially rocked up in Brooklyn and was fairly casually blocking, ducking and dodging various attacks from Bushmaster's goons, just to give some examples.

Still got 6 more episodes to go though, so will see how things play out. Danny will have to get a pretty sizable upgrade from The Defenders in order to take the place of one of the Super Soldiers though.


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Team wins the first fight
Tony wins the 2nd


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Hmmm... 7 episodes into s2, so haven't got to any Iron Fist yet (though articles and photos released like a month or two ago implied at least a cameo). Luke has definitely shown a very clear improvement in both fighting skill and speed though. It's almost like he's a different guy to the one we saw in JJ s1, LC s1, and the Defenders in that regard. Guess going full-time hero has helped him dust off his skills a bit. Take the [SPOILER - highlight to read]: bridge rematch between him and Bushmaster. He showed various striking, grappling, throwing techniques, a bit of ground game, as well as different counters and such, or when he initially rocked up in Brooklyn and was fairly casually blocking, ducking and dodging various attacks from Bushmaster's goons, just to give some examples.

Still got 6 more episodes to go though, so will see how things play out. Danny will have to get a pretty sizable upgrade from The Defenders in order to take the place of one of the Super Soldiers though.



Rand has a few good moments in season 2 of Cage but nothing to suggest he can take out one of the super soldiers unless during his own show he majorly improves


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I saw the episode where Danny rocks up. And I can see more than a few MCU Power Man and Iron Fist team up threads coming in the near future. Those two actually make a pretty formidable pair. Especially considering "pat-a-cake". Though the fact that Luke can [SPOILER - highlight to read]: stonewall an Iron Fist punch powerful enough that just the shockwave alone KO'd a whole group of thugs is kind of insane.


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So, I am also assuming that "same circumstances" means Tony is also an emotional wreck and suffering from PIS? Because that's basically why he lost in the film lol.


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I saw the episode where Danny rocks up. And I can see more than a few MCU Power Man and Iron Fist team up threads coming in the near future. Those two actually make a pretty formidable pair. Especially considering "pat-a-cake". Though the fact that Luke can [SPOILER - highlight to read]: stonewall an Iron Fist punch powerful enough that just the shockwave alone KO'd a whole group of thugs is kind of insane.



that scene rocked.. i've watched that scene a few times now... when luke guest stars in Iron Fist I'm hopeful a similar scene happens


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Honestly, it might be one of my favourite MCU Netflix fights at this point. Choreography was on point, great background music, and it ended with a great climax. And, as someone pointed out on another site, they actually do [SPOILER - highlight to read]: a version of "Get help" from Thor: Ragnarok when Luke throws Danny at the last 2 guys lol. Though Danny does it with more style than Loki.


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And, as someone pointed out on another site, they actually do [SPOILER - highlight to read]: a version of "Get help" from Thor: Ragnarok when Luke throws Danny at the last 2 guys lol. Though Danny does it with more style than Loki.

I think comic fans would call it Fastball Special


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I think comic fans would call it Fastball Special


Bingo, although it looked kinda lame.

With that said...I think IM takes both fights. People on Cages level can clearly harm him. IM is quite strong probably stronger than Cage.


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Bingo, although it looked kinda lame.

With that said...I think IM takes both fights. People on Cages level can clearly harm him. IM is quite strong probably stronger than Cage.


The new suit is on all levels stronger than cage.


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The new suit is on all levels stronger than cage.


Yep, IM wins both scenarios.

Tony's 1st IM suit that he didn't make from supplies he found in some cave...was able to stop a car from moving at only like 20% of its power.


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Yep, IM wins both scenarios.

Tony's 1st IM suit that he didn't make from supplies he found in some cave...was able to stop a car from moving at only like 20% of its power.


Yeah. On another level tbh.


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Still though gotta say...this latest season makes me want a Cage/IF show. IF is finally starting to step away from being a shitty character.


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Funny thing is though, I would argue Tony's punches and kicks would potentially do more damage than his weapons would. Most things that do piercing or explosive damage seem next to useless against him at this point.


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I could see that happening, especially if he specifically puts a lot of power into a punch.


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I could see that happening, especially if he specifically puts a lot of power into a punch.


Well, if he is not pulling his punches, and hitting with the kind of power he was in IM 1, then he could.

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Poor guy. Thought he was in for an honest day of terrorising. Instead gets murdered by being punched into a 2nd floor wall.


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Well if IM wasn't pulling his punches, he really shouldn't have had any trouble against Cap and WS. That was just PIS.


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Well if IM wasn't pulling his punches, he really shouldn't have had any trouble against Cap and WS. That was just PIS.

Yeah. Bucky was basically no-selling shots to the face before he tried to pry the arc reactor off. Or it could be that the suit's just weaker compared to other suits. There's definitely precedence for that in IM 2 and 3


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