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MCU: Hela vs. Doctor Strange

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I feel like Hela is a bit quicker on the draw than Strange, which means he will likely be on the defensive from the start. Not sure if he can avoid her sword barrage indefinitely, even with his shields. That being said, the Cloak of Levitation will be a big help here, considering it gives him added mobility, plus it was able to block Kaecilius' mystical shard blades in his film, as well as take Thanos tearing it off the IG without any visible lasting damage. So, that thing is pretty damn durable.

If I had to choose, I would still back Hela in a random encounter though. If there was some prep involved, things could change. But OP said nothing about it, so not relevant to this particular thread.


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Infinity War Strange

Fight takes place on Titan


Strange, just because the fight takes place off Asgard. Although Hela might take this should the battle begin at close quarters.


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Strange hasnt shown himself on standard Thor level yet let alone Helas.

He was even asking Starlord about where Thor is because he was needed to fight Thanos. More so than Strange.

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Strange will put up a fight but in the end I can't see how he takes out Hela outside of BFR, whereas Hela needs only one good shot.


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Hela vs Strange

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPZRmkVLeOE

starts at (3:12) but I recommend watching it all or at least watching it from (2:45). stick out tongue

Also, lol @ (3:44). stick out tongue

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Strange wins. She can’t deal with his magic. He can easily beat her. Bad matchup for her. She’s a lot more powerful but he has the tools to defeat her.


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For those who are saying Strange wins, how exactly is he beating Hela outside of BFR?


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For those who are saying Strange wins, how exactly is he beating Hela outside of BFR?
Bfr. Did you see how easily he bfr’d Loki. She would be dealt with that quickly.


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Nonesense. He couldnt take Maw. His attacks were too fast and too much for Strange. Hela would pose the same problem except with Thanos level strength to boot.

But again Quans butthurt over Thor and Thor related characters has been noted.

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Nonesense. He couldnt take Maw. His attacks were too fast and too much for Strange. Hela would pose the same problem except with Thanos level strength to boot.

But again Quans butthurt over Thor and Thor related characters has been noted.

Umm no. Hela just spams blades in a single direction towards her enemies or just beats them down with straight up fisticuffs. Maw uses everything around as a weapon, from all directions to restrain and then move in for the kill. Granted Hela's method would work just well and has the advantage that unlike Maw, (or even Strange for that matter) she is no glass cannon but Maw is a very different kind of enemy to face than Hela


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Clear Edge to Hela


Umm no. Hela just spams blades in a single direction towards her enemies or just beats them down with straight up fisticuffs. Maw uses everything around as a weapon, from all directions to restrain and then move in for the kill. Granted Hela's method would work just well and has the advantage that unlike Maw, (or even Strange for that matter) she is no glass cannon but Maw is a very different kind of enemy to face than Hela



Point is Hela also has exotic attacks but is clearly massively stronger and more durable than Maw.

Yes Maw has more versatility with his use of Tk, Maw for the most part was just chucking stuff at Strange which Hela can also do. Yet at no point did Strange just easily Bfr him.

Fighting Hela would be like fighting Ebony Maw and Cull Obsidian in 1 being. Except shes even stronger than Cull and more powerful than Maw, though yes not quite as versatile.

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Nonesense. He couldnt take Maw. His attacks were too fast and too much for Strange. Hela would pose the same problem except with Thanos level strength to boot.

But again Quans butthurt over Thor and Thor related characters has been noted.
Abc logic at its ugliest. Maw is different than Hela entirely. She is not Thanos level. No one is. Thor is awesome but he is not in the thread. Strange wins against her. She had ample time to beat Thor or the Valkyrie but failed to do so. Strange failed against the Maw but the time stone worked against dormammu. That does not mean the Maw beats dormammu just that he was able to beat strange. ABC logic is truly josh level retardation.


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Abc logic at its ugliest. Maw is different than Hela entirely. She is not Thanos level. No one is. Thor is awesome but he is not in the thread. Strange wins against her. She had ample time to beat Thor or the Valkyrie but failed to do so. Strange failed against the Maw but the time stone worked against dormammu. That does not mean the Maw beats dormammu just that he was able to beat strange. ABC logic is truly josh level retardation.



Not really. Its quite relevant. And pretty apparent Hela is on another level. You just hate anything related to Thor.

Are you kidding? Thor and Valk together would Uber stomp Strange.

He literally could not do shit to Maw, and yet you want to pretend he can just Bfr anyone anytime. Clearly the evidence is against you.

Uh yeah because that was with the Time Stone Dummy.

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Not really. Its quite relevant. And pretty apparent Hela is on another level. You just hate anything related to Thor.

Are you kidding? Thor and Valk together would Uber stomp Strange.

He literally could not do shit to Maw, and yet you want to pretend he can just Bfr anyone anytime. Clearly the evidence is against you.

Uh yeah because that was with the Time Stone Dummy.
No, she cannot return from being bfrd. You can pretend she is on another level most retards do but when the portal clearly would work you have no response. You have a weak argument you always do.

My point was Hela fought Thor alone and was unable to seriously injure him. She does not just smoke everyone in half a second and was not overwhelmed by multiple adversaries at the time.

Strange wins. She gets bfrd if you do not believe this works provide proof you know an actual argument not more of your pitiful she is on another level arguments which hold no merit.

Maw is not Hela. She was tagged by multiple attacks. Maw was not tanking hits left and right like she was. Strange tried to use it against Maw. That is the point. That does not make Maw able to fend off Dormammu just because he beat the guy who mentally raped Dormammu with the time stone. You are like josh unable to discern the obvious points because you are dumb.


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No, she cannot return from being bfrd.


And how did Maw handle being Bfrd DUMMY



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You can pretend she is on another level most retards do but when the portal clearly would work you have no response. You have a weak argument you always do.


Your butthurt over Thor and Hela has been noted.

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And how did Maw handle being Bfrd DUMMY





Your butthurt over Thor and Hela has been noted.
He was against more opponents than just one. Strange was not able to do so. You see the end result and ignore the variables that led to this. You are josh level. Context confuses you.

Concession accepted since she cannot resist one portal. Strange wins. Watch how he casually dismissed Loki like a *****. Sorcerer supreme indeed.


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He was against more opponents than just one.



What other opponent you liar!

Iron Man was taking on Cull. Strange actually had Wong helping him against Maw until Strange got dragged away.

So sorry to break it to you but the 2 of them combined could not Bfr Maw.

Do you never get tired of me exposing your lies? You should just stop.

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People talk about Strange bfring opponents like it's an incredibly easy thing for him to do. It is not. If it was then he could have easily used it against Maw and Cull.

When he used it against Loki (a favorite example of pro-Strange debaters), it should be noted that Strange only used portals on Loki twice. First when Loki wasn't aware that he was being attacked and had no idea what was happening, the 2nd when Strange already created the portal beforehand and only needed to push it forward against Loki. In both scenarios Strange had an unfair amount of prep time against Loki.

Fact of the matter is, using portals against actively resisting opponents has always been difficult for Strange. It's doable definitely, but it's not a sure shot win.

And again I ask, other than BFR, how exactly is Strange winning this?


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In both scenarios Strange had an unfair amount of prep time against Loki.




And both from his sanctum. Where he was making Thor dizzy from the random easy shifts he could do there. He hasnt displayed that kind of instant shifting outside his sanctum.

So yeah Not comparable to getting into a random street fight without prep like him and Wong were against Maw and Cull.

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