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Thinkerer
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Bane (Dark Knight) vs Batroc (MCU)

Who wins? No weapons.

Jan 18th, 2025 11:25 AM

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Probably Bane.

Jan 18th, 2025 01:23 PM

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Batroc. He's much faster and has showcased more skill than Bane and is strong enough to give Cap somewhat of a fight when he's not going full bore.

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Batroc won't be able to hurt Bane unless he discovers his weakness.

Bane has no sold haymakers from Batman and can one-shot Batroc, given his ability to punch through stone columns.

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Jan 19th, 2025 06:02 PM

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Batroc won't be able to hurt Bane unless he discovers his weakness.

Bane has no sold haymakers from Batman and can one-shot Batroc, given his ability to punch through stone columns.

Cap didn't one-shot Batroc and he has feats that put Bane to shame in his sleep. Like throwing Ultron through a highway column. And he doesn't need to hurt Bane to knock him out. All he has to do is rattle his brain which he is more than capable of. Considering Batroc has stopped Falcon from taking off against his jets and kicked him out of flight, he's more than strong enough to effect Bane.

Jan 19th, 2025 08:28 PM

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Taking Sam down midflight and taking a shot from the shield to his forearms >>>Anything Bane did

Batroc oneshots Bane

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Originally posted by KingD19
Cap didn't one-shot Batroc and he has feats that put Bane to shame in his sleep. Like throwing Ultron through a highway column. And he doesn't need to hurt Bane to knock him out. All he has to do is rattle his brain which he is more than capable of. Considering Batroc has stopped Falcon from taking off against his jets and kicked him out of flight, he's more than strong enough to effect Bane.

That means he hit Batroc with less than lethal force.
The same as when he struck many humans in his first movie and all his other movies.

Not every strike Captain America lands is superhuman. The plot often requires his strikes to be at human levels when he fights other humans.

Lol, I disproved the Ultron feat years ago - you just have a bad memory.
Also, you can't reference and scale a character's highest feats to another unrelated situation, especially when that character has contradictory lower showings.

As for Batroc stopping Falcon's flight in the first second - that's a human-level feat. I could do that. Falcon only achieves significant acceleration after being in the air for a few seconds. Even then, the stopping force is simply Falcon's mass multiplied by his acceleration, which is easily within the limits of real human strength.

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Jan 20th, 2025 12:48 AM

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Batroc.

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As for Batroc stopping Falcon's flight in the first second - that's a human-level feat. I could do that.

This is all anybody needs to read before even having an inkling of entertaining this guy any further.

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This is all anybody needs to read before even having an inkling of entertaining this guy any further.

Learn the basics of physics.
Force = mass * acceleration.

If the initial acceleration is approximately equal to g = 32ft/s, then stopping Falcon from taking off would be equivalent to lifting his weight.

Just eyeballing the scene, it's clear to any reasonable person that it doesn't require superhuman strength to accomplish.

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This is all anybody needs to read before even having an inkling of entertaining this guy any further.

You just gotta do the math right.

Jan 22nd, 2025 01:34 AM

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You just gotta do the math right.

I've double and triple checked and the math checks out right.

Answer = H1 duplicating anything in any movie or film regardless of superhuman strength or normal human abilities is FALSE

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Batroc won't be able to hurt Bane unless he discovers his weakness.

Bane has no sold haymakers from Batman and can one-shot Batroc, given his ability to punch through stone columns.

When did he no-sell haymakers from Batman?

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In the underground fight where he beat him up.

Prove it. Math yourself up a little rocket pack and then post a video of you performing some of Batrocs kicks and Falcons feats. I would love to see that.

Jan 23rd, 2025 07:33 PM

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In the underground fight where he beat him up.

Prove it. Math yourself up a little rocket pack and then post a video of you performing some of Batrocs kicks and Falcons feats. I would love to see that.

Yeah, when Batman had just come back from 8 years of no Batmanning and was weaker.....

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When did he no-sell haymakers from Batman?

His head moved but he didn't experience any damage or pause.

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Jan 29th, 2025 08:27 PM

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In the underground fight where he beat him up.

Prove it. Math yourself up a little rocket pack and then post a video of you performing some of Batrocs kicks and Falcons feats. I would love to see that.

Force = mass x acceleration
Just estimate the initial acceleration from the scenes.

From what I remember, the initial take off acceleration is small.

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His head moved but he didn't experience any damage or pause.

Which scene?

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That means he hit Batroc with less than lethal force.
The same as when he struck many humans in his first movie and all his other movies.

Not every strike Captain America lands is superhuman. The plot often requires his strikes to be at human levels when he fights other humans.

Lol, I disproved the Ultron feat years ago - you just have a bad memory.
Also, you can't reference and scale a character's highest feats to another unrelated situation, especially when that character has contradictory lower showings.

As for Batroc stopping Falcon's flight in the first second - that's a human-level feat. I could do that. Falcon only achieves significant acceleration after being in the air for a few seconds. Even then, the stopping force is simply Falcon's mass multiplied by his acceleration, which is easily within the limits of real human strength.

Pfft, I could one-shot Thanos, kiddo.

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Which scene?

In Batman's first fight against Bane, he lands multiple haymakers, yet they cause no damage or even a slight stun effect.

Honestly, even if Batroc can cause some pause in Bane, Bane's insane damage soak will still allow him to overwhelm and dominate Batroc.

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