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Data vs Spock

no, not in combat, as data would clearly win.

its just that neither enterprise would have lasted long without these eggheads to come up with a genius idea and save the day.

so i ask: who was your favorite enterprise problem solver?


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not that i agree that spock is better, i found this quite ammusing:

Top 100 reasons why spock is better than data.

100. Spock came first.
99. Spock plays chess with his captain; Captain Picard wouldn't be caught
dead playing games with Data.
98. Spock likes to take rocket-pack joy-rides.
97. Spock is so confident, he waits to the last possible second to transmit
friendship lingua-code to an attacking enemy.
96. Spock never stabbed his fellow crewmen.
95. Spock never dressed like Friar Tuck.
94. Spock's mom is not only human, she knows she's human.
93. Data dresses like Sherlock Holmes; Spock is related to Sherlock Holmes.
92. Humans are beneath him.
91. Vulcans never bluff.
90. Spock doesn't have an evil twin brother.
89. Spock played his Vulcan lyre with a bunch of hippies--and retained his
dignity.
88. Spock never babbles uncontrollably like some kind of walking thesaurus.
87. Spock's voice is a deep, resounding baritone. Data sounds like a
Broadway dancer.
86. Spock usurped the command of a commodore.
85. Spock can keep Kirk in line.
84. Spock has no wish to command_but when he does, he kicks ass.
83. Spock never grew a skunk stripe in his hair.
82. Spock porked Saavik--and she had full control of her faculties.
81. Spock is willing to risk destroying the entire space-time continuum by
knocking out some obnoxious punk on a bus in the 20th century.
80. Spock makes a neat-looking gangster.
79. Spock looks good in a plaid coat and winter hat.
78. Spock can make a working communicator out of "stone knives and bear
skins."
77. Only Spock could have a track on the Star Trek: The Motion Picture
sound track called "Spock Walk."
76. The 1992 Hallmark Keepsake Ornament for the Galileo shuttle-craft has
Spock's voice in it.
75. Spock will mind-meld with anything.
74. Spock never fell out of his chair laughing.
73. Spock would never permit anyone to teach him how to dance.
72. Spock risked the death sentence to get a blonde chick for his
paraplegic former captain.
71. Two words: Neck pinch.
70. Spock violated General Order Number 7--and got off.
69. Spock would never allow the ship's computer to create an adversary so
powerful that it crippled the ship--he's a better programmer than that.
68. Spock would rather fry his skin off in a radiation chamber than let the
Enterprise be destroyed.
67. Spock can drive alien computers crazy with illogic.
66. Spock's friends don't mind throwing away their careers for him; Data's
friends send him down to engineering and run a level-one diagnostic.
65. Spock has a Star Trek movie named after him.
64. Spock decked Kirk for calling him a "pointy-eared half-breed."
63. Spock's head is not five hundred years old.
62. Spock talks to extinct whales.
61. There are no neat publicity photos of Mr. Data sucking on a lollipop.
60. Spock never risked the lives of the entire crew to rescue a piece of
"sentient" mining equipment.
59. Spock has an eternal soul.
58. Data's home world was destroyed by a giant snowflake; Spock's home
world is a leading member of the Federation.
57. Spock's ship survived longer than Data's ship.
56. Spock's dad can beat up Data's dad.
55. Spock is a living legend.
54. Spock never had to see the ship's counsellor about his problems.
53. Spock's prot�g�s were all really cool bitchen chicks; Data had Wesley.
52. Spock gets off on spores.
51. Spock crossed the Great Barrier of the galaxy, met God, and didn't even
raise an eyebrow.
50. No one ever referred to Spock as an "it."
49. Spock's name can never be mispronounced.
48. Spock once returned to duty with an excruciatingly painful parasite
chewing on his spinal chord.
47. There will never be a "Dr. Data's Baby Handbook."
46. Spock had a million bumper stickers that said, "I Grok Spock."
45. Spock single-handedly made peace with the Klingons and made a
Romulan/Vulcan unification possible.
44. Spock never cowered helplessly under a console.
43. Two words: Stage presence.
42. Dr. McCoy insulted Spock a lot but never called him "boy."
41. Spock can play a musical instrument without having to install a
software upgrade.
40. Spock doesn't have a Pinocchio complex.
39. Data may be "fully functional" but Spock's penis can feel.
38. Spock can read people's minds.
37. One word: Bangs.
36. You can't say, "Are you out of your Vulcan mind?" to Data.
35. Spock makes a neat-looking Nazi.
34. Spock has a first name--and you can't pronounce it.
33. Spock is accompanied by groovy theme music.
32. Spock's jokes are funny.
31. The Enterprise nurse was in love with Spock.
30. Spock survived having his brain removed with no permanent damage.
29. Three words: Seven-year itch.
28. Spock is at his coolest when he hides his human emotions--Data is at
his goofiest when he tries to show his.
27. Two words: Pointy ears.
26. Two words for Data: FORMAT C:
25. Spock looks good in a beard.
24. Spock can raise his eyebrow.
23. Spock says, "Fascinating." Data says, "Intriguing" because
"fascinating" was already taken.
22. Spock does not want to laugh.
21. Spock has chest hair.
20. Spock's ears are easily explained away with a "mechanical rice-picker"
story.
19. Two words: Fan mail.
18. Spock once told Kirk, "One damn minute, Admiral."
17. Spock is not artificial.
16. Data's pet is a stupid cat--Spock's pet was a giant Sehlat with 6-inch
fangs.
15. Spock refused to marry that Vulcan *****.
14. Spock once mind-melded with a rock and found out it liked his ears.
13. All the chicks love Spock.
12. Spock never said, "I shall endeavour to function adequately, sir."
11. Mr. Spock collectibles fetch a much higher price than Mr. Data
collectibles.


..And The Top 10 Reasons Why Mr. Spock Is Better Than Mr. Data

10. In Star Trek V, Spock actually flew.
9. Nobody can take Spock's arm off.
8. Spock has been in reruns 21 years longer than Data.
7. Spock doesn't have to worry about bugs in his operating system.
6. Spock came back from the dead.
5. Spock once made a phaser out of a sub-dermal implant and a bed frame.
4. Spock refused to be in Star Trek Generations.
3. Spock never solicited the advice of Joe Piscopo.
2. Spock's kid would never fall apart.
1. Spock doesn't have an off-switch


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I can't even begin to describe how lame that list was. Not because I like Data more than Spock, but because 98% of them were just superficial differences.


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Loved this one: Data's home world was destroyed by a giant snowflake; Spock's homeworld is a leading member of the Federation.

Data's still cooler.


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My favorite would be spock

The better problem solver would be Data


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Data is and Android endevering to become mor human while bringing out the best in the Enterprise's crew. I thought it a neat touch that Before (B4) in Nemesis replaced Data at the end. Personally, Data is a much more lovable, and better understood character who's informative overtalking is key to his success.

"I have encoded the bridge computer with a Fractal encryption code. It is unlikely the Borg will break it" Data - First Contact

"It appears to be a robotic arm." Data - Nemesis

"Oh shit!" Data - Generations

"Lock and load." Data - Insurrection

"Captain, I believe that would be illogical." Spok - Original Series

Spok is a rather redundant character whos most memorable lines end with illogical. Or fastinating while Data is trying to become human, Spok is trying to distance himself from his heritage. It is such in Star Trek VI where he goes to Vulkan with Docter (Bones) M'coy. Anyway if I had to choose, having watched both series's. Data is better. smile


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Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I can't even begin to describe how lame that list was. Not because I like Data more than Spock, but because 98% of them were just superficial differences.


its meant to be humorous, as it obviously doesnt pretend to be a serious assessment (painfully obvious)

my god man


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its meant to be humorous, as it obviously doesnt pretend to be a serious assessment (painfully obvious)

my god man

I was well aware of them when I called it lame.

Spock has bangs - LOLOLOLOZ!!!!11


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Data has comic relief and can sing... and use computers super-fast!


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I was well aware of them when I called it lame.

Spock has bangs - LOLOLOLOZ!!!!11


i guess its time for you to retire to your hugbox



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Data has comic relief and can sing... and use computers super-fast!



however data's programming can be tampered with and is thus potentially deadly to his entire crew as we often have seen:



so while i think data is far superior to spock, imho spock would be the safer bet.


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That was like one episode. And because Lore was involved.

I don't know what was going on in the end there in Insurrection, I think it is, but I vaguely remember his reason being valid.


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Overall i would go with Spock, he is my favorite but from watching various episodes i believe he would be more practical to the crew then data.

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Data would win...as he taught Q.

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well thats a bit misleading since he only instructed q on how to deal with humans on a social level, if im not mistaken..


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it was a light hearted pro-data reason...sort of to match that 100 reasons for Spock list.

Q did anoint him "professor of humanities"

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oh ok


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28. Spock is at his coolest when he hides his human emotions--Data is at
his goofiest when he tries to show his.


Doesn't this one kind of cancel itself out?


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21. Spock has chest hair.

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Who'd hit it?


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