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Kirk's religion?

im not knowledgeable about the show that much, but i did love the movie.... what i know is james t. kirk the main character was originally played by william shatner who is jewish

and chris pine has russian jewish origins as well

now i know this means absolutely nothing, the actor's religion/ethnicity does not= the character's ethnicity... but i was just wondering

does it ever mention kirk's religion... is he jewish.. is he christian....? is he atheist, seeing as he travels to many planets and stuff..?


is kirk just a typical white guy born in riverside iowa (wikipedia is helpful sometimes..lol)

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I believe Gene Roddenberry once said, "In Star Trek's future the world is Atheist and they're better for it!"

That may not be an exact quote but it was something to that effect.


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Yeah, Earth in the future is highly not religious.

There was an episode of ST:TNG where the Enterprise lands on a planet inhabited by a primitive Vulcan-like race; it deals with how they did away with religion despite still being at a stone-age level of technology and how fear can lead back to religion/belief.

Captain Picard makes some comment on how they'd be transgressing if they started to believe in make-believe beings (gods) again.


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Yet it was considered a very big deal to meet God (allegedly) beyond the galactic barrier in Star Trek: The Final Frontier.

Then again, ST:TFF is easily the worst film in the series, so nothing in there counts.


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There is an old episode were Kirk says we are happy with just the one god. I don't remember the episode.


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The religiosity of Federation Earth or lack thereof is inconsistent, but Roddenberry always intended the people of the Federation to be essentially non-religious but open minded. I think though that (as many otherwise non-religious people are) Roddenberry was still influenced by certain Christian sensibilities, and this was compounded in TOS by network interference. (The ending of Bread and Circuses is almost a Christian tract--the world they visited is "saved" because the Gospel of Christ is upon them).

It's a bit like Phillip Pullman, author of His Dark Materials. At one point he said "Yes, I'm an atheist, but I'm a Church of England Atheist."

An interesting moment comes in DS9 where Sisko's father quotes the Bible and there's the slight suggestion that he actually believes the words. Of course that was a weird (but good) episode, and Deep Space Nine is the Trek series that's defined by breaking all the rules of what constitutes a Trek series.


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Kirk was his own religion. "I am Kirok!"

Btw ... Kirk is of Old Norse and Old German origin, and the meaning of Kirk is "church." In Scotland, "kirk" is used to mean "church."


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Originally posted by Robtard
Captain Picard makes some comment on how they'd be transgressing if they started to believe in make-believe beings (gods) again.


Picard on religion, in general and him dispelling that he's not a Supreme Being:




(Again, Patrick Stewart shows why he is such a great actor).












Picard realizes Q is not God because he believes in some sort of intelligent guiding hand in the universe (something he views Q incapable of doing):






Picard also had a very eloquent soliloquy regarding God, Afterlife, etc. I cannot find a youtube vid. It is TNG: Where Silence has a Lease. Picard believes in a superior form of an afterlife. One that is not "nothingness" and one that is not as simple as a "heaven-hell" result. He's a Mormon. hahahaha


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Yet it was considered a very big deal to meet God (allegedly) beyond the galactic barrier in Star Trek: The Final Frontier.

Then again, ST:TFF is easily the worst film in the series, so nothing in there counts.

IIRC, that godlike entity was retconned as being an associate of Q in one of the Q novels.


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(Again, Patrick Stewart shows why he is such a great actor).
Nobody does the Captain's Sneer like Picard. Heck, I think he invented it (it out-impacts even the Conroy Batman Smirk).


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Kirk believes in a God and it's Picard. This is why when they eventually meet up, Kirk sacrifices himself for Picard. All hail and then tug down your shirt.

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Kirk believes in a God and it's Picard. This is why when they eventually meet up, Kirk sacrifices himself for Picard. All hail and then tug down your shirt.

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Yes! The Picard Maneuver!


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Kirk ventures through what he perceives before him.

If it is an infinite form of a collective consciousness/subconsciousness then he will most probably still question its meaning. And in return the infinite will thank him for it as he becomes one with it.


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Kirk ventures through what he perceives before him.

If it is an infinite form of a collective consciousness/subconsciousness then he will most probably still question its meaning. And in return the infinite will thank him for it as he becomes one with it.


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Why not? big grin


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Kirk's religion: Bangthewenchism.


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It's that mad swag.

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^ Door angles up, of course. Kirk, u da man.


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I think Kirk believes in God, but doesnt go by any established religion.

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Maybe the bangthewench one.


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