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Nagato vs whitebeard
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Rikudo sennin
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Nagato vs whitebeard

who do you think will win?
personally i think nagato

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Whitebeard should by all rights stomp him into the ground. He seems to have a stronger body than Zoro(who survived what amounts to a Shinra Tensei) and is strong enough to spin his weapon and knock back Nagato or his paths. Factoring his Gura Gura being stronger than basically all of Nagato's moves and the fact that he should be faster(not really sure on this cause Whitebeard never seemed all that fast to me but One Piece characters on the whole are faster and Whitebeard is high tier so eh) and he should by all accounts kill Nagato without much in the way of difficulty.


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If Nagato's Asura power can absorb Gura-quakes, and he can keep it at range, then winning isn't out of the question.

-One Piece characters on the whole are faster and Whitebeard is high tier so eh)-

Well, kinda-sorta. OP characters have high burst-speed, but Naruto characters can travel longer distances faster. Crossing a distance like Ennes Lobby or Marineford barely takes any time in Naruto.


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Whitebeard should by all rights stomp him into the ground. He seems to have a stronger body than Zoro(who survived what amounts to a Shinra Tensei) and is strong enough to spin his weapon and knock back Nagato or his paths. Factoring his Gura Gura being stronger than basically all of Nagato's moves and the fact that he should be faster(not really sure on this cause Whitebeard never seemed all that fast to me but One Piece characters on the whole are faster and Whitebeard is high tier so eh) and he should by all accounts kill Nagato without much in the way of difficulty.


hell no gravity>shattered air second thats pretty much it for whitebeard he doeant have much else whle nagato has a slew of other things to use and the he can summon gedo mazo which by the way stomps whitebeard hardcore.

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Whitebeard has done more with his Gura Gura fruit than Nagato has ever done lol. Gedo Mazo? I'm pretty sure the tidal waves created by Whitebeard's Gura Gura are bigger than the Gedo Mazo.

Granted, if you think Nagato is going to throw his best stuff out immediately(he never does really), then I'll just assume Whitebeard will kill him before he gets the chance.

Of course, if you think Whitebeard gets stomped into the ground, why bother making the thread?


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Granted, if you think Nagato is going to throw his best stuff out immediately(he never does really), then I'll just assume Whitebeard will kill him before he gets the chance.


I don't think a quick kill is very likely. Actually getting into melee with Nagato isn't a super-easy thing, and the side effects from the quakes aren't going to take him out.


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Do Whitebeard's attacks work on airborne targets?


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Originally posted by Q99
If Nagato's Asura power can absorb Gura-quakes


And... Why would we assume that?

The Gura quakes are purely physical, not chakra or even chakra equivelant.

A single Quake would kill most of the Paths.

Whitebeard is faster by a good deal, and his Quakes can be used with but a punch.

Also, Whitebeard would stomp the shit out of Pain's Gedo Meizo, which unlike Tobi's doesn't have seven Bijus.


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Do Whitebeard's attacks work on airborne targets?


The attacks are essentially shock waves that travel through the air and he has used it to attack an object far away. If he aims at it, he should be able to attack it. No idea if there is any restricted range though.


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^ Ah, okay. Using Drill-beak bird to get out of range is most likely out then.


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Since it was not specified in the OP, I am going to automatically assume that this is Yuki Nagato.

In which case, unholy rapestomp in her favor.


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Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Whitebeard has done more with his Gura Gura fruit than Nagato has ever done lol. Gedo Mazo? I'm pretty sure the tidal waves created by Whitebeard's Gura Gura are bigger than the Gedo Mazo.

Granted, if you think Nagato is going to throw his best stuff out immediately(he never does really), then I'll just assume Whitebeard will kill him before he gets the chance.

Of course, if you think Whitebeard gets stomped into the ground, why bother making the thread?


really it took all of his might to tip marineford around nagato obliterated konoha in seconds. And are u crazy gedo mazo being defeated by simple waves of water he stopped to slabs of rocks way bigger than him by holding his handa out. and you think whitebeard will throw out his best stuff first no not that he has much options. whitebeard is outclassed

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Originally posted by NemeBro
And... Why would we assume that?

The Gura quakes are purely physical, not chakra or even chakra equivelant.

A single Quake would kill most of the Paths.

Whitebeard is faster by a good deal, and his Quakes can be used with but a punch.

Also, Whitebeard would stomp the shit out of Pain's Gedo Meizo, which unlike Tobi's doesn't have seven Bijus.


this is nagato using his own body and second gravity>shattered air also whitebeard as you said needs to do hand gestures while nagato can release it by a thought from all sides of his body. and he can easily pull whitebeard in and bombard him. gedo mazo>whtebeard without the bijuu chakra whitebeard gets his soul sucked out of him and is slapped aroung. this is not even inckluding all the animal summons, machinery techniques and other stuff he is outclassed.

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^ Ah, okay. Using Drill-beak bird to get out of range is most likely out then.

he can counter with his shinra tensei and he can constanly heal the bird.

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Originally posted by NemeBro
And... Why would we assume that?

The Gura quakes are purely physical, not chakra or even chakra equivelant.


They're Fruit powers. That's not mundane, that's magic.

The side-effects are physical, any rocks thrown around and such, but the quaky-itself? That's the devil fruit.

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Whitebeard is faster by a good deal, and his Quakes can be used with but a punch.


Eh, not really. I mean, Pain can go from well outside Konoha to the middle in no-time, while crossing Marineford is something that took quite awhile.

OP has very high short-range *burst* speeds, but One Piece is full of chases over distances that Naruto characters have covered in one or two pages (not counting OP characters with specific travel powers).

Whitebeard would've loved to have Nagato for his attack on Marineford.


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They're Fruit powers. That's not mundane, that's magic.

The side-effects are physical, any rocks thrown around and such, but the quaky-itself? That's the devil fruit.



Eh, not really. I mean, Pain can go from well outside Konoha to the middle in no-time, while crossing Marineford is something that took quite awhile.

OP has very high short-range *burst* speeds, but One Piece is full of chases over distances that Naruto characters have covered in one or two pages (not counting OP characters with specific travel powers).

Whitebeard would've loved to have Nagato for his attack on Marineford.


this^ one large scale shinra tensei and all of marineford would have been leveled and the survivors are soul sucked by gedo mazo.

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really it took all of his might to tip marineford around nagato obliterated konoha in seconds. And are u crazy gedo mazo being defeated by simple waves of water he stopped to slabs of rocks way bigger than him by holding his handa out. and you think whitebeard will throw out his best stuff first no not that he has much options. whitebeard is outclassed


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You do realize that at the time of Marineford, Whitebeard was dying right? And it takes a lot more out of Nagato to nuke a village than it does for Whitebeard to flip an island over. And nah, I don't believe the waves will do it. It will be the quakes. Mostly because you haven't set a stage for the fight. And it's not so much that Whitebeard is using his best stuff from the beginning but rather he doesn't feel like dicking around with Nagato.


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They're Fruit powers. That's not mundane, that's magic.

The side-effects are physical, any rocks thrown around and such, but the quaky-itself? That's the devil fruit.


The source was magic. Enel's lightning, Crocodile's sand, Luffy's rubber body, and Whitebeard's quakes are not.

Would you use the same logic to claim that Nagato can absorb a punch from Luffy?

Regardless, equivelance doesn't really apply here.

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Eh, not really. I mean, Pain can go from well outside Konoha to the middle in no-time, while crossing Marineford is something that took quite awhile.

OP has very high short-range *burst* speeds, but One Piece is full of chases over distances that Naruto characters have covered in one or two pages (not counting OP characters with specific travel powers).

Whitebeard would've loved to have Nagato for his attack on Marineford.


You are not getting me.

I am not saying Whitebeard has to move to beat Nagato. He doesn't need to so much as shift his feet.

He throws a punch. This proceeds to kill Nagato.


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The source was magic. Enel's lightning, Crocodile's sand, Luffy's rubber body, and Whitebeard's quakes are not.

Would you use the same logic to claim that Nagato can absorb a punch from Luffy?

Regardless, equivelance doesn't really apply here.



You are not getting me.

I am not saying Whitebeard has to move to beat Nagato. He doesn't need to so much as shift his feet.

He throws a punch. This proceeds to kill Nagato.


not really shinra tensei can easily counter and it will be hard for whitebeard to throw comebacks when hhe is getting dragged across the battlefield by bansho tenin plus nagato has the aerial advantage.

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Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
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You do realize that at the time of Marineford, Whitebeard was dying right? And it takes a lot more out of Nagato to nuke a village than it does for Whitebeard to flip an island over. And nah, I don't believe the waves will do it. It will be the quakes. Mostly because you haven't set a stage for the fight. And it's not so much that Whitebeard is using his best stuff from the beginning but rather he doesn't feel like dicking around with Nagato.


so nagato was in a extremely weakened state as he looks like freaking skeletor yet he was able to still do that even though all his abilities are weaker when used through the paths. And still whitebeard took a while and had to gather enough power to tip marineford. And nagato can either heal his wounds with naraka path or replace his lost body parts with asura path. And nagato has both variety and the aerial advantage. Whitebeard is just outclassed.

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