The current generation of the 5 Kage, or every single known Kage? Doesn't matter either way as the Sage would win, but one of those teams would get all kinds of stomped.
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All known Kage-
Kazekages Iron, Gold, and Sand
Mizukages Illusion, Turtle and Lava
Hokages Wood, Water, Smart, Teleport, and Healbrick
Tsuchikages Invisible Dust and Dust
Raikages Brick and Speed
Plus 7 unknowns (First and Second Kaze, First and Third Mizu, First Tsuchi, First and Second Rai). The Raikages and Kazekage all tend to be similar, and the 1st Tsuchi was floating so he's likely Dust as well, but the Mizu's a complete unknown.
Biggest individual combat asset is Hashirama.
There's at least two people who know the Death God seal.
And Minato and, perhaps Tobirama may be able to redirect a Biju ball with their space-time jutsu.
With 22-to-1 with Hashirama on the former side, it might be possible, but it'll be super tough.
Pain is not the Sage. Pain's got nothing on the Sage. The Sage is pretty much Pain plus Madara plus Hashirama. Plus being the ultimate Jinchuuriki on top of all that.
The Five Kage? I think they could beat Pain. But they lost to Madara.
I don't see it being possible. Not when their opponent can create whatever he can think of, can create and summon celestial bodies, and is supposedly an exponentially more powerful version of Edo Madara. If the Sage knows how to create clones, 22-1 would mean nothing really.
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But, he can still only do so much at one time. That's the one chance I see, one attention, 22 foes, some of which with insta-kill attacks, some faster than him, and so on.
22 actions for every one of his, so he may not always have time for his big jutsu.
I don't see them winning. the sage would have probably infinite chakra, especially with the juubi. I would assume he is capable of space/time, sharingan (susano'o, amaterasu, etc.), rinnegan (absorption, repel, etc.), and pretty much every other tech there is. he could probably make clones above the level of naruto with his chakra stores.
Well, considering madara's or naruto's output capabilities, I'd say it's still gonna be a lot.
Whether it's genetic or not, space/time should still be in his realm of capability, even if it is just Kamui or something. I assume that space/time is associated with sealing techs, which the Sage should have knowledge of.
Has his power to create ever been defined? I mean if he could just say summon 22 extremely powerful beasts such as any of the tailed beasts, in an instant, he could easily distract the kages long enough to wreck. Just take the stronger ones first while they deal with his beast and its a wrap. But this is why i ask. I dont recall anyone saying it was limited by anything but his practically unlimited chakra.
True, but the scale of his big jutsu are probably vastly beyond the scale of anyone else here. And we don't know how the Dead Demon Seal would interact with a Jinchuurikii, much less one with the Ten-Tails sealed inside him.
Considering that Naruto can now make clones capable of going toe-to-toe with high level Kages, if the Sage could make clones, or just create them with his Creation ability, the numerical disadvantage would not exist, or would shift to the side of the Kages.
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Yea, the big jutsu. But the Kage strategy should try and focus on minimizing opportunity for those. And some of the big ones, like the Moon-making jutsu, can be stopped (destroy the core).
We've got some of the most incredibly fast nin ever on the Kage side, in quantity.
Hashirama can make plentiful clones too if it comes to that, though hopefully he'll be on other tasks.
And Tsunade + Onoki = giant cube of high-level clone destruction. Hashirama should be able to boost other Dust users similarly.
His Moon-creating Chibaku Tensei was done when he lacked the chakra of the Ten-Tails, and when he was incredibly old. Not only could he create a bigger one if he wanted to (though it would be catastrophic), but he could probably spam those as well. As far as I know, only the Dust-Release users would have techs capable of causing significant damage to the core. Well, them and Yagura, but he'd have to lack the Three-Tails here, no?
However, the Sage's clones would make a far greater impact on the tide of the battle than Hashirama's clones would.
That giant Dust-Release attack would be all but useless against the Rinn'egan's Preta Path ability. The Sage likely won't be making Hashirama/Madara-esque clones that for whatever reason lacked/never used the Rinn'egan.
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Sure, but if the three Tsuchikages & Yagura are taken out, I don't think there's anyone else left who could stop the technique. We've only seen Minato use his S/T barrier at close to mid range.
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Yagura's mirror technique should make him pretty hard to take out. Plus, this many Kage, I think simple elemental techniques are going to have a lot of power in combination.
Hm.... I suppose adding in acting/candidate Kage and behind-the-scenes Kage wouldn't change things much, would it? In other words, Tobi, Kakashi, and Danzo.
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