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SS3 Goku vs SS4 Vegeta

Takes place on earth, Fully Powered SSJ 3 Goku does not lose/drain energy like before. Vegita gets once SS4 transformation from Bulma.

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i would hope SS4 vegeta would have the power to beat SS3 goku.


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Im piting this fight favoring Vegeta because Goku always has the upper-hand. At full power SS3 I think Goku would still have a shot if no power drain on his body. However Vegeta is SS4

Vegeta lacks feats as SS4 while Goku has many in SSJ3


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If these are both anime characters, then this belongs in the Anime VS Forum.


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Goku should still win, imho.

The level of power increase over the course of DBZ is ridiculously inconsistent to the point it could be argued that some of them were stronger when the series began than ended were it not outright stated otherwise.

An example being Piccolo kerbewming the moon without issue, an insane feat, and one I can't recall him ever topping, actually. Later on most of the planet busting that happens actually seemed to take more effort than that.

Goku sans SS form while training for that afterlife tournament specifically struggled with 40 tons. He's done better than that in Dragon Ball.

There's just not enough consistency to the series to argue SS4 Vegeta can outdo SS3 Goku, and GT was noncanon anyway.


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If these are both anime characters, then this belongs in the Anime VS Forum.
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And SS3 Goku wins because I hate GT and GT logic.


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Excluding that Z vs GT feats, Vegeta would stomp. By scaling from Z, GT characters are on another level what with SS1 GTGoku being stronger than Buu.

That and GT gives the SS4 form, the highest strength feat from lifting up half a city and I think the fastest speed feat. By itself it gives nothing on destruction.. but meh.


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Moved to Anime Vs.


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SSJ4>SSJ3

Yes Goku might be more powerful at base form but still each SSJ form has big difference.


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Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Goku should still win, imho.

The level of power increase over the course of DBZ is ridiculously inconsistent to the point it could be argued that some of them were stronger when the series began than ended were it not outright stated otherwise.

An example being Piccolo kerbewming the moon without issue, an insane feat, and one I can't recall him ever topping, actually. Later on most of the planet busting that happens actually seemed to take more effort than that.

Goku sans SS form while training for that afterlife tournament specifically struggled with 40 tons. He's done better than that in Dragon Ball.

There's just not enough consistency to the series to argue SS4 Vegeta can outdo SS3 Goku, and GT was noncanon anyway.


I agree, fully powered SSJ3 Goku should still be able to beat SS4.


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SS4 Vegeta shitstomps SS3 Goku without even trying.


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SS4 Vegeta shitstomps SS3 Goku without even trying.


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Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
SS4 Vegeta shitstomps SS3 Goku without even trying.


No feats to back this argument up. All we ever see SS4 Vegeta geting the shit kicked out of him.


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Power scaling takes the cake.


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Goku should still win, imho.

The level of power increase over the course of DBZ is ridiculously inconsistent to the point it could be argued that some of them were stronger when the series began than ended were it not outright stated otherwise.

An example being Piccolo kerbewming the moon without issue, an insane feat, and one I can't recall him ever topping, actually. Later on most of the planet busting that happens actually seemed to take more effort than that.

Goku sans SS form while training for that afterlife tournament specifically struggled with 40 tons. He's done better than that in Dragon Ball.

There's just not enough consistency to the series to argue SS4 Vegeta can outdo SS3 Goku, and GT was noncanon anyway.

But... Nah, you have a good point.


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No feats to back this argument up. All we ever see SS4 Vegeta geting the shit kicked out of him.


He's on the same level as SS4 Goku, who bit**-slapped Baby Vegeta, who bit**-slapped SS3 Goku.

Ergo SS4 >>>>>>>>>>>> SS3.


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He's on the same level as SS4 Goku, who bit**-slapped Baby Vegeta, who bit**-slapped SS3 Goku.

Ergo SS4 >>>>>>>>>>>> SS3.


I guess that proves it

Goku loses.


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And SS3 Goku wins because I hate GT and GT logic.


thumb up I like this logic.


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The fact people are arguing for SSJ3 makes me sad. Very sad. Come the fvck on people. Seriously a 6 year old knows this.

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The fact people are arguing for SSJ3 makes me sad. Very sad. Come the fvck on people. Seriously a 6 year old knows this.


Are you this 6 year old?


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