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Madara Uchiha vs Tenshinhan

Madara as the Jinchuriki
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Tenshinhan as of DB Super
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Tien has literally no feats... by power caling he would take it...

But I have to give this to Madara for having substantially more feats.


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Naruto operates on another level from Dragon Ball.


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If you take away tenshinhan knowlege of him, this will be a quick fight for madara. Tenin looks an exotic eye that leads to his destruction.


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Multiple tri-beams would end it. Also he's much faster.

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Multiple tri-beams would end it. Also he's much faster.


But Madara has the strength of multiple tailed beasts. Just one is a multiverse buster (At the weakest, a tailed beast is equal to Marvel's abstracts like Eternity or Death)


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Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Tien has literally no feats


So literally beating Cell's ass with Kikoho isn't a viable feat here?

Anyway, if Madara doesn't use genjutsu Tien spites.


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Honestly. If Ki and chakra are considered different in this scenario, Tien wins.

If they are considered the same. Madara wins. Because then Madara can abosrb Tien's energy attacks.

Having said that though. Tien's Martial arts or Taijutsu would be considered greater than Might Gai's 8 gates by the obscene power scaling we see in Dragon Ball Z. In which case. Tien would win.


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Feats are irrelevant here. Power scaling says Tien blitzes Madara before his mind is even able to process that there is a fight going on.

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Not sure tien (thank you!) win in a biltz, but having the nine tail as a power source means annialation for tien. Can he stop the regenerative ability or the virus that nine tail has like he did against sakura? I don't think so.


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Also, physics helps both parties. I don't think dbs characters reach sound speed, if that's what comes up in this debate and here's why. Mass effect when you pretend (trunks ruins THEORIES) like you don't know where their speed are at. Now we're playing with portable (gravity machine!) power. The verdict of flight speed (Mach 5 at best!) out weighing movement speed is being realistic in their world. An considerable amount of TRAINING in the gravity room reveal that (air current) are lacking sound speed or greater. Experimental with only 400x Gravity (vegeta!) means they could have flaws in flexibility of normal gravity because Earths Gravity is the measurement of sound! If an individual go beyond sound, odds are they will break the gravity machine because the shockwave of them moving will be to great. It's why vegeta uses machines with lasers, the particles are held down by the gravity. Try that with a handgun, vegeta may have problems with the speed and DAMAGE the room. Him moving at sound speed in the room is impossible because of his mass, he'll definitely cause a large shockwave. So vegeta lowered the gravity so the laser beams can go faster! So if vegeta is sound speed he would switch from the gravity room over to the hyperbolic time chamber. Vegeta would have tested his speed out at any transformation so he could go further, so he's not sound speed.


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There is really no evidence that anyone in Super is actually all that physically strong, Naruto has a better striking feat than anyone in Super.
That said Tien has no counter to Genjutsu. He gets stunned and then cut in half.

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There is really no evidence that anyone in Super is actually all that physically strong, Naruto has a better striking feat than anyone in Super.
That said Tien has no counter to Genjutsu. He gets stunned and then cut in half.


Yeah. Like that time he could just use Genjutsu against Might Gai. Get smart or shut up.


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Yeah. Like that time he could just use Genjutsu against Might Gai. Get smart or shut up.
Guy arguably has had training against Genjutsu, now show me scans of Tien even arguably having anything even close to some training... Got nothing, then shove it bitchboy.

Edit: from the explanation of how Genjutsu works and the effects of the 8 gates there is a solid argument that you should be immune to Genjutsu.

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Guy arguably has had training against Genjutsu, now show me scans of Tien even arguably having anything even close to some training... Got nothing, then shove it bitchboy.
Not really arguably. Gai trained to face a sharingan user as a rival, and kept up with him just using taijutsu while Kakashi had genjutsu, taijutsu, and ninjutsu at his disposal.


That being said, Tien wins. As long as it's a living Madara. Nadara doesn't have the completely hax genjutsu of Tsukiyomi.


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Not really arguably. Gai trained to face a sharingan user as a rival, and kept up with him just using taijutsu while Kakashi had genjutsu, taijutsu, and ninjutsu at his disposal.


That being said, Tien wins. As long as it's a living Madara. Nadara doesn't have the completely hax genjutsu of Tsukiyomi.
there are far more basic Genjutsu that showed the same effect that he would need, Tsukiyomi really only seems to be powerful because of the time dilation ability but basic anbu Genjutsu put people to sleep long enough to bring them back to the leaf village.

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If tien knew just how dangerous madara is he would frag the area madara is on. So it's 50/50 if tien has knowledge, otherwise madara is going to hypnotize him!


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But Madara has the strength of multiple tailed beasts. Just one is a multiverse buster (At the weakest, a tailed beast is equal to Marvel's abstracts like Eternity or Death)


Gonna need some proof of that, bro. Because nothing period in Naruto has even come close to world ending, much less multiverse busting.

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If tien knew just how dangerous madara is he would frag the area madara is on. So it's 50/50 if tien has knowledge, otherwise madara is going to hypnotize him!
Madara can tank a basic Ki blast and even Piccolo needs time to do a big area blast.

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Guy arguably has had training against Genjutsu,


If we are doing this arguably and speculating, then Tien who got his third eye through intense meditation and can communicate with people via telepathy has greater genjutsu equivalent training then Gai ever had, and can see through and mimic any attack his opponent makes. Ofcourse the limits of this was never expanded on so I wasn't going to mention it.

But by your standards we are allowed to assume and speculate so why the **** not.


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