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Krillin vs Roshi vs Tien (ToP)

Which human takes it?

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Certainly not Tien.


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Krillin has been considered to be the most powerful earthling in DB since the Android/Cell saga, and that still holds true now(see Krillin's fight with Majora in the ToP.)

Aside from that, Toei's official website also states that Krillin is the most powerful earthling by the time the ToP takes place.

Imo, Krillin > Roshi > Tien


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Kikoho ftw.


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Sadly how low has Tien fallen. He should be the best earthing.

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No kidding.

Tien hasn't been above Krillin since the Saiyan saga. It's when Krillin went to Namek and got his power unlocked by Guru, that he really skyrocketed above the other earthlings... And they've never caught up to him since.


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If that happened, he suspected, the Empire would stand forever."

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You presented plenty of evidence in your earlier posts, but I still don't buy it.

I think you just like to jerk off short bald dudes, tbh.


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Honestly going through dragonball and z, krillin wss always depicted a little below yamcha and nowhere close to tien. I don't know why toriyama made him the strongest after the buy arc?

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Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Honestly going through dragonball and z, krillin wss always depicted a little below yamcha and nowhere close to tien. I don't know why toriyama made him the strongest after the buy arc?
As mentioned above: during the Namek saga Krillin got a MASSIVE powerup ala Guru that put him WAY ahead of the other earthlings(his PL on Namek officially reached 75,000 "and still rising")... And he's been ahead ever since.

I highly doubt that will ever change, given Tori's love for the character(he and Goku are the franchise's 'OG' good guys, after all.) /shrug


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He demanded results, but never perfection, and had amazing stores of patience for those who were truly working to their fullest ability.
It was a pity Thrawn's style of leadership hadn't spread through the rest of the navy.
If that happened, he suspected, the Empire would stand forever."

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Even after his namek power up, he wasn't any more impressive than any other human. Both yamcha and tien did more in the Android saga and they appeared stronger than him thanks to king kai training

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That's because after the Namek saga, almost NO emphasis was placed on earthlings for the rest of the series. Only now, in DBS, are earthlings back in the plot again(albeit minimally.)


What did Yamcha do in the Android saga except get one-pieced by #19..?

While Tien's Kikoho moment against Semi-Perfect Cell was cool and all, it was ultimately irrelevant and only succeeded in pushing Cell down for a few seconds. The Kikoho is very powerful, but it isn't versatile at all... Not to mention that it drains the user's ki VERY quickly. It's a hysterically inefficient attack, tbh.


That said, this is the ToP era earthlings. Krillin is still the most powerful, period.


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He demanded results, but never perfection, and had amazing stores of patience for those who were truly working to their fullest ability.
It was a pity Thrawn's style of leadership hadn't spread through the rest of the navy.
If that happened, he suspected, the Empire would stand forever."

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Not much happened for the humans in the Android saga, but yamcha and tien still did more than krillin. Yamcha wss confused for goku based on power level alone and figured out that they absorbed energy. Tien held cell back and attempted to fight 17, though he was quickly downed. Krillin just kinda stood there. I'm not arguing that krillin isn't the strongest, just saying that they did a horrible job portraying that. He always appeared weakest and I wouldn't have guessed he was even stronger than yamcha till toriyama came out and told us.

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Yamcha wss confused for goku based on power level alone and figured out that they absorbed energy.
The last time Gero's drones had monitored Goku was during the Saiyan saga, where his PL peaked at 32,000(/w/ KKx4). So even IF we assume Yamcha's PL was ~32,000 during the Android saga, Krillin's PL was still >75,000 on Namek, and he had been constantly training in the 3 years between sagas... So it's reasonable to assume he'd become a LOT more powerful by the time the Androids arrived. /shrug

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I'm not arguing that krillin isn't the strongest, just saying that they did a horrible job portraying that. He always appeared weakest and I wouldn't have guessed he was even stronger than yamcha till toriyama came out and told us.
Fair enough. I'm just glad you're not trying to argue Krillin's status as the most powerful earthling or w/e. thumb up


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It was a pity Thrawn's style of leadership hadn't spread through the rest of the navy.
If that happened, he suspected, the Empire would stand forever."

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Ok, never use power level numbers as evidence for who is stronger. Toriyama said he only introduced them to show how inaccurate they were. Future trunks had a resting powerlevel of 5.

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As mentioned above: during the Namek saga Krillin got a MASSIVE powerup ala Guru that put him WAY ahead of the other earthlings(his PL on Namek officially reached 75,000 "and still rising")... And he's been ahead ever since.

I highly doubt that will ever change, given Tori's love for the character(he and Goku are the franchise's 'OG' good guys, after all.) /shrug


At what point was he ever 75,000??

He certainly was not that strong when he fought the Ginyu force.


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Roshi was the most impressive by far and has been given the best feats of the three throughout the tournament, so I give the nod to him.

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Roshi had a plot weapon that helped him with those the. Anyways, I keep picturing Tien against Cell. He did extremely well. Goo enough to make me believe he is the most powerful here tbh. Tien and Roshi last battle shoiuld be thrown out of the window due to context and friendship.


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