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SSJ Vegetto (Boo Saga) versus Odin (Marvel)

Posting this here because threads tend to get more traction here than in foreign cinema. Who wins and why?

If Vegito loses, replace him with BoG Super Saiyan God Goku. If Odin loses, replace him with standard Galactus.


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Vegito wins.

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Reasoning?


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Faster, more powerful, more skilled, better warrior.

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Vegito stomps tbh and I know every single ft I need to know of Odin to justify my argument.


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If Odin fights mostly h2h like he did against Thanos, Vegito could win. If Odin uses esoteric abilities like time-stop or dimensional BFR, he wins.


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Hhhhhmmm, wonder if time stop would even work.

Couldn't Vegito return from dimension bfr? We've seen Goku cross dimensions with instant transmission.


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^ There is no reason at all to assume that Vegito is immune to temporal manipulation. But again, it's not like Odin to use esoteric abilities like time-stop in battle, so that's an improbable(but not impossible) scenario regardless.

IT is limited by Goku's ability to sense ki. So if Odin banished Vegito to a dimension/realm where he was unable to sense ki, he'd effectively be stuck there... That said, I doubt BFR is in the spirit of this thread, so it's probably a moot tactic here anyway. /shrug


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Vegetto farts and break free from Odin prison dimension.


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Vegetto has nothing that puts him on Odin's radar, at least without anime feats. SSG Goku is more like it, but he'd lose all the same.


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Odin's far, far too powerful here. Skyfather's are multi-universal level.


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I remember Odin affecting multiple universes, and fighting a being that could perhaps destroy one, but when did any Skyfather show any multi-universal feats? As far as I know Odin's the strongest of their number.


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I remember Odin affecting multiple universes, and fighting a being that could perhaps destroy one, but when did any Skyfather show any multi-universal feats? As far as I know Odin's the strongest of their number.


Ignore him.

Also, going by the anime, Buuhan was a multiverse buster with a scream. Base Vegetto > Buuhan, in the anime. /shrug

Also, Odin is nowhere near universe level. Standard Galactus tanks his strongest blasts that put him in a coma, like they're nothing.

Vegetto is a being that was lightyears beyond anyone previously shown in DBZ. SSJ2 Gohan was stronger than the solar system busting SPC, and SSJ2 Vegeta and Goku were beyond that. However, while the scale I just posted would still probably put Odin above Vegetto, it's clear that they were intended to be universal in power by the anime and canon sources after this, such as BoG's and Super.

Hell, SSJ2 enraged Vegeta made Beerus use 10% of his full power, and Beerus is a casual universe buster. While SSJ2 Vegeta had surpassed SSJ3 Goku at that point, it still hints at the assertion of SSJ3 tier from the Buu saga being galaxy level at the minimum.

Either way, in this thread I'm going with Vegetto. He might not have the feats, but he should easily be a galaxy buster, going by current canon sources. Even Kid Buu was implied to be a galaxy buster though, iirc. Base Vegetto > Kid Buu

However, I don't think I'd see Vegetto taking out standard Galactus, until Super of course.


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Also, going by the anime, Buuhan was a multiverse buster with a scream. Base Vegetto > Buuhan, in the anime. /shrug


Okay, but I specifically specified that I wasn't taking the anime into account, so why even bring it up?

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However, while the scale I just posted would still probably put Odin above Vegetto, it's clear that they were intended to be universal in power by the anime and canon sources after this, such as BoG's and Super.


Considering how Beerus--who was several orders of magnitude above literally everyone else until his introduction--was the first to be introduced as a universe buster in canon, I don't think that's the "clear intention" at all lmao.

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Hell, SSJ2 enraged Vegeta made Beerus use 10% of his full power,


thumb up And n00b SSJG Goku made him use 100%.


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Buuhan's scream also wasn't Multiversal.


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Well, I can sorta see where he's coming from, though. I don't remember it all that well, but IIRC he was going to crush the universe by breaking down the barriers between dimensions, right?

In that case, wouldn't all the dimensions that converged be crushed as well?


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I remember Odin affecting multiple universes, and fighting a being that could perhaps destroy one, but when did any Skyfather show any multi-universal feats? As far as I know Odin's the strongest of their number.


I was just going by Carvers logic on Jiren. smile

But seriously, Odin's battle with Infinity proves he could probably wreck the universe with his power, considering Infinity is the opposite coin to Eternity, the enbodiment of the universe itself. And Odin not only rather casually defeated her, but then repaired all the damage done to the universe, which imo is FAR more impressive then any act of destruction, since it takes far more energy/power to create then to destroy (Remember, Super God Herc used up all his skyfather powers fixing the universe.)

Odin operates on a power level closer to Beerus, this is a stomp.


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The hell?

The Infinity Odin fought wasn't the universal Infinity (who is synonymous with Eternity,) it was half of Odin's power that Hela stole when he went into the Odinsleep.


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Well, I can sorta see where he's coming from, though. I don't remember it all that well, but IIRC he was going to crush the universe by breaking down the barriers between dimensions, right?

In that case, wouldn't all the dimensions that converged be crushed as well?


The description of the ability in the Daizenchuu is that the distorted space would cover the living world and wipe it out, (note: not all of universe 7, just the Living World).

Buu was breaking down the barriers between dimensions, which would cause the dimensions to "crush" the living world. If you're one of the ones who believes the DBZ living world was only 4 galaxies, then no, the feat isn't anything close to Multiversal. Buuhan wasn't even pulling the dimensions in, he was just causing the barriers to break on a multi-Galactic/universal scale.


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The hell?

The Infinity Odin fought wasn't the universal Infinity (who is synonymous with Eternity,) it was half of Odin's power that Hela stole when he went into the Odinsleep.


eek!

Argh, fooled again by lazy comic naming conventions. mad


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