Sinestro hurt Volthoom, a universal reality warper.
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At the height of his power, SBP should be able to at least breach Jiren's meditation-barrier with repeated strikes(which is more than I can say for anyone else in the Sinestro Corps.) Prime also has feats to suggest he can endure at least *some* of Jiren's energy attacks.
That said, Jiren wins.
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Last edited by Galan007 on Feb 18th, 2018 at 08:05 PM
Fear entity drove off Spectre, who is >>>>> universal entity.
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You said it yourself, an unguarded character gets hurt by bullets.
Even if Jiren was >>>>> in every other way (Something I don't personally believe, given SBP punched into the fifth dimension, a near impossible feat of power) here's no doubt Dragon Ball has some of the sketchiest speed history in all media. SBP is Flash Fast, on the attosecond range as LEAST, and should therefore blitz an unguarded team DBS into oblivion.
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...But Jiren is NOT unguarded while meditating -- he's fully enveloped by a ridiculously haxx shield/barrier: (please log in to view the image)
And Prime only punched into the 5th dimension AFTER he obtained the Guardian-amp, btw... I can only assume one-off amps like that are not allowed here -- especially considering that Prime didn't even have the amp when he was part of the Sinestro Corps.
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1. The fear entity. Parallax instill fear even in universal/multiversal tier reality warpers.. Proven by chasing off Spectre, scaring stiff Volthoom, and terrifying the Guardians before Sinestro murdered them.
2. Reality shifting. Sinestro alone could simply dump Jiren in Quard, or into his ring (All rings contain another dimension, that the user controls as a god.)
3. Mind control. Sinestro overpowered Hector Hammond, one of the top tier telepaths. Dragon Ball is extremely weak when it comes to esoteric powers like mind rewrites.
4. Vast speed edge. I don't care what else you think, Dragon Ball speed is built on a shaky foundation with few concrete feats. The often touted Whis example is something ring slingers perform casually, as they go about their day to day duties. And in terms of reflex's, rings have programmed auto defensive moves, and can speed up perceptions, allowing Hal to zoom past skyscrapers at the speed of sound at street level (As he did in Sinestro Corp War), or go at ftl speeds through dense asteroid fields. Further, constructs can operate independantly and at ftl speeds.
5. Anti-Monitor was a member. At the end of Sinestro Corp Wars, he threatened the entire multiverse.
6. One of the SCW members is a virus. All of Gokus power didn't protect him from a heart virus. Jiren will have no defense against a sentient virus invading his body.
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Everyone but Carv, admit it, the scw virus was a great point.
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Yup. All the power Goku had and virus was still easily stronger. I don't agree with other points, but virus might win here and yes with Anti-Monitor there, they might finish him.
If a normal virus can take down a super saiyan, that proves ki doesn't protect from diseases.
And this is a SENTIENT virus. He can target specific organs, like the brain, or whatever Jiren has inside of him.
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