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Prof. T.C McAbe
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Perfect UI Goku from DB Super vs SSJ4 Goku from GT

Based off powerlevels, who wins?


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Ah no contest... MUI Goku with unbelievable ease.

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Power levels don’t matter and are basically not a thing in Super.

That said SSJ4 is usually equated to Blue for marketing purposes so MUI should win. And based on feats, MUI stomps and stomps hard.


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MUI wins.


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SSG Goku one-shots.

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Ok some extremes. I wouldn't go that far and say one stomps the other, rather i would have though it would be a close fight. What do you think their powerlevel is?


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Power levels don’t matter and are basically not a thing in Super.

That said SSJ4 is usually equated to Blue for marketing purposes so MUI should win. And based on feats, MUI stomps and stomps hard.


Also, what SS4 Goku it is? What saga? Surpassed Limits allowed?

One could imagine EoGT SS4 Goku would handle MUI Goku with ease...


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Also, what SS4 Goku it is? What saga? Surpassed Limits allowed?

One could imagine EoGT SS4 Goku would handle MUI Goku with ease...

I asked for power levels in this thread. I hoped for great claculations.

SSJ4 Goku who defeated Shenron.


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And you'd get them, normally. But like Aura said - power levels don't seem to matter much in Super... they're f*cking all over the place, making sense out of them just gives you a giant headache. God ki, non-god Ki, berserker rages, ranging the shit out of park = giant boost, Kamesennin somehow getting a gargantuan upgrade, etc.

Surpassed Limits you want, then. Equal to SS4 Vegeta. I'd take SS4, but I'm biased and favour GT to Super.


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And you'd get them, normally. But like Aura said - power levels don't seem to matter much in Super... they're f*cking all over the place, making sense out of them just gives you a giant headache. God ki, non-god Ki, berserker rages, ranging the shit out of park = giant boost, Kamesennin somehow getting a gargantuan upgrade, etc.J4

Surpassed Limits you want, then. Equal to SS4 Vegeta. I'd take SS4, but I'm biased and favour GT to Super.


I favour GT over Super also, but MUI Goku would be far too much for SSJ4 Goku. EoGT Goku is another story.

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I favour GT over Super also, but MUI Goku would be far too much for SSJ4 Goku. EoGT Goku is another story.


What about SSJ4 Gogeta?


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What about SSJ4 Gogeta?


I would like SSJ4 Gogeta to win, but I just don't see it. I think that even in raw power department MUI Goku has the edge. I hope I am wrong.

And I should also watch GT again.

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One could imagine EoGT SS4 Goku would handle MUI Goku with ease...
I imagine that Goku had ascended beyond SSJ4 all together. After all, Baby-saga Bulma referenced Vegeta potentially reaching SSJ5, so just imagine the power Goku was able to attain with 100 years of constant training with Shenron + fusing with the goddamn Dragon Balls. blink

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I asked for power levels in this thread. I hoped for great claculations.

SSJ4 Goku who defeated Shenron.
I discussed GT scaling in depth here.

Not trying to toot my own horn, but I can't imagine the 'calcs' being extrapolated on more than I did in that thread. /shrug


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What do you think a generous assumption for Goku in BoG and consequential arcs?
Let's say Goku is twice as strong in SS3 as Kid Buu. Twink mode is at least double SS3, and Blue is at least double Twink. And then you assume Goku doubles every arc. UI is what double KKx20? MUI is double to four times that?


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Ssj4 Goku wouldn't be able to lay a hand on him.


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Goku in base for Super is Buu level right? Ironically that’s something GT and Super seem to agree on.


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Yeah.

At this point though I would just be happy that SSJ4 is implied equal to Blue for marketing purposes. DB Heroes aside, even in Xenoverse 2 there's a recent DLC story scenario where SSJ4 and SSJB Goku meet. Nice fanservice for fans of either era to say the least.


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Mui Goku would wipe his ass with Goku add Vegeta and they still lose.


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Think base is above Buu level. He fought 3 Buu level beings solo (with one of them being more powerful than Buu) and was stomping them.


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Originally posted by Galan007
I imagine that Goku had ascended beyond SSJ4 all together. After all, Baby-saga Bulma referenced Vegeta potentially reaching SSJ5, so just imagine the power Goku was able to attain with 100 years of constant training with Shenron + fusing with the goddamn Dragon Balls. blink

I discussed GT scaling in depth here.

Not trying to toot my own horn, but I can't imagine the 'calcs' being extrapolated on more than I did in that thread. /shrug


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Great calcs. From what I read in your calcs however GT should be vastly above Super in terms of powerlevels (not feats). Though the lows are bigger in Super too not only the highs. You say MUI wins iow has a higher powerlevel, how high do you think it is compared to SSJ4 Goku?

If we make it SSJ4 Gogeta, would this change the outcome of this fight?


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