Jiren. What did Broly do that puts him above Jiren? The people that Broly fought, Jiren was standing in one spot tanking their attacks. Jiren fought a better group of characters and treated them like fodder.
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
I mean, you also have to factor in the perpetual increases/zenkais that Goku and Vegeta received during the ToP. For example, a strong argument can be made that ep.122-123 SSB Goku(no KK) had surpassed even his previous UI levels, given his performance against Jiren. Same with SSB Vegeta. Their powers grew by leaps and bounds.
Ergo Vegeta's comment in the manga: (please log in to view the image)
...Then consider the fact that Goku and Vegeta would both be a good bit more powerful in this film, as they had fully healed/zenkai'd from all the battle injuries they had sustained during the ToP, AND had full stamina to boot.
And if you think adding KK for Goku and SSBE for Vegeta would have changed the outcome against Broly, you're wrong. Both are 20x increases on top of SSB -- Ikari Broly was already SSB-level, and the SSJ transformation logically gave him a 50x increase(that's what the canon SSJ multiplier has always been.) IOW, SSB+KKx20 Goku and SSBE Vegeta would still fall tremendously short of SSJ Broly's power. Also keep in mind that SSJ Broly's power continued growing exponentially the entire time -- it simply started off at 50x Ikari Broly.
Lastly, in the light novel(which IS a canon source), Freeza states that SSJ Broly possessed the most powerful ki he had ever felt, and was stronger than anyone in creation(Angels and the like obviously notwithstanding)... And Freeza has explicitly sensed FP/LB Jiren's ki, among others: https://i.imgur.com/PMve4F9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/nvYPWXx.jpg
So yeah, I think SSJ Broly's chances are pretty good against Jiren, tbh. FPSSJ Broly would ravage him, imo.
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