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Broly vs Jiren

Who wins.

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I want to say broly. He seems more adaptable and powerful

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Assuming no further adaptation, still Jiren. Jiren scales to Beerus better than Broly does.


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While not even using a percentage of his power, Jiren was said to be as strong as a GOD. He powered up at least 4 times after Whis said this. I haven't seen the Broly movie yet, so no comments on this fight.


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As of right now...probably Jiren tbh.

Broly didn't handle Goku and Vegeta as impressively as Jiren did.


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Not really SSJ Broly demolished Goku and Vegeta under 30 seconds they couldnt confront him head on they had to run for their lives.

Jiren had to go "full power" to do the same....


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Did Goku add kayo times 20 on top of his Super Saiyan blue form in this movie? Did Vegeta use his ascended Super Saiyan Blue form against Broly? Remember, Jiren took on two amped Super Saiyan blues and stomped them.


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And Goku said the only way they can beat Broly is via fusion...

So going KK or Evolution would have been pointless...


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Did Goku add kayo times 20 on top of his Super Saiyan blue form in this movie? Did Vegeta use his ascended Super Saiyan Blue form against Broly? Remember, Jiren took on two amped Super Saiyan blues and stomped them.


Yes he did times 20, Broly took down both blues.


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And Goku said the only way they can beat Broly is via fusion...

So going KK or Evolution would have been pointless...


I'm talking about the performance though. Not beat him but how they would've done. Especially with a huge power jump like that.

Jiren was matching Mastered U.I. I truly doubt Goku and Vegeta merging would have made a difference against Jiren if they didnt go blue during the onset. Iirc, didnt Goku say that fusion wouldn't work against Jiren?


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Goku hasn’t mastered Ui


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Broly in Ikari form was equal to SSB before Frieza killed Paragus. The simple SSJ form should boost Broly's power by 50x so I dont think a 20 times boost for Goku would have done much tbh....

Broly's SSJ stacks on Ikari form since he keeps the green aura...

Just going by simple logic SSJ is a 500 times multiplier for Broly's base which is above Goku's and Vegeta's SSJ form.

Vegeta felt the need to go God against normal Broly to overpower him since after taking 4 hits from him he was already more powerful then Vegeta....so going by logic Broly multiplied his power times 50x under a minute or less which just sounds retarded...


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@Brolyblack...

He did master it though. The only reason Jiren was able to tag Goku was due to him using OMNI attacks. None of his physical attacks touched Goku.


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He hasn’t mastered it because he has a time limit on it and it’s an involuntary transformation.


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Broly in Ikari form was equal to SSB before Frieza killed Paragus. The simple SSJ form should boost Broly's power by 50x so I dont think a 20 times boost for Goku would have done much tbh....

Broly's SSJ stacks on Ikari form since he keeps the green aura...

Just going by simple logic SSJ is a 500 times multiplier for Broly's base which is above Goku's and Vegeta's SSJ form.

Vegeta felt the need to go God against normal Broly to overpower him since after taking 4 hits from him he was already more powerful then Vegeta....so going by logic Broly multiplied his power times 50x under a minute or less which just sounds retarded...
It is insane. On top of that, the FPSSJ multiplier was significant enough that Gogeta felt the need to jump from SSJ1 to phucking SSB to counter him... So it must be a gargantuan increase as well.

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He hasn't mastered it because he has a time limit on it and it's an involuntary transformation.
This is true. Whis said as much:

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FP should be another 30-50+ multiplier

Meaning FP Broly= base x 25000 which is just dumb....


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I definitely don’t think KK or Evolution would have changed much against Broly, but the fact is FP Jiren from episode 129 is in the same tier as FPSSJ Broly, given that his strength is similarly on the level of the Gods and possibly surpassing it, (though FP Broly gets the edge for being “probably” stronger than Beerus himself).

FPSSJ Broly could not dominate FP Jiren the way MUI did, and LB Jiren overpowers even MUI.


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Raw power wise Broly would just go through LB Jiren.

SSB Gogeta defeats/destroys Broly and Jiren simuntaneously.

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