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Dr. Fate - Dr. Strange “Challenge”

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Alright here is the Challenge; you must adhere to a the “Laws of Equivalent Exchange.”

“Laws of Equivalent Exchange”
Meaning, if someone presents a Dr. Fate Feat. Then one must reply with a Dr. Strange feat of “equal or greater value”.

Rules/Limitations
Standard Items for both characters. No base items can be used.
Both characters can accesses their entire history of showings, including those in their Silver Age eras.
For Fate that would include Kent, Inza, Eric, Linda, Hector, Jared, and Kent V.


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I went back and checked some OLD fate comics and I take back my vote of a draw. The guy has no real weaknessess with retarded power. Fate wins 6 to 5


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What about Strange when he faced Shuma-Gorath? Or when he beat Dormammu or Death?

Wait, am I incorrect, or are Fate's feats including his silver and golden age pre-crisis feats?


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Trick, can you read?

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Trick, can you read?
Does chronic, violent masterbastion count as reading? If it does, then he can read like a mther****er. stick out tongue


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I lol'd in a big way.

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Does chronic, violent masterbastion count as reading? If it does, then he can read like a mther****er. stick out tongue


And this is why I love this guy. big grin LP: didn't PC fate take on Spectre?


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What about Strange when he faced Shuma-Gorath? Or when he beat Dormammu or Death?

Wait, am I incorrect, or are Fate's feats including his silver and golden age pre-crisis feats?
I agree, those were way more powerful than fate. But Here is the problem, the rules have changed. Strange is no longer allowed outside help, which is like two thirds of his power set. The rules totally kneecar the guy. As for PC feats being allowed, I think so. Same fate just kilod same orion.


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Wait, no outside help? You mean he can't call on the Hoary hosts, the crimson bands, the vishanti, chaos and order, black magic, etc?

Ack. That's harsh. I know he's got some power on his own, he can't be that weak. Fate killed Orion?


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I lol'd in a big way.
ew. Is the computer screen all rainbowy now?


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Wait, no outside help? You mean he can't call on the Hoary hosts, the crimson bands, the vishanti, chaos and order, black magic, etc?

Ack. That's harsh. I know he's got some power on his own, he can't be that weak. Fate killed Orion?
No, he didn't kill orion, my fingers went all Michael J Fox on of. I meant there is no diff tween Pre C Fate and current. Just like Orion. It didn't affect em. He did well against Spec, yes. But even more impressive was when he one shot ko'd pc supes with one punch.


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So Fate's just as powerful as he used to be, it's just the current guy who sucks?


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Hector actually reached Kent Nelson levels at the end, but it didn't come quickly. Fate would get the majority, IMO. But it's VERY close battle.

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I agree, those were way more powerful than fate. But Here is the problem, the rules have changed. Strange is no longer allowed outside help, which is like two thirds of his power set. The rules totally kneecar the guy. As for PC feats being allowed, I think so. Same fate just kilod same orion.
This isn’t a direct confrontation between Fate, and Strange per say. It’s a more subtle, and lax approach in pulling up a feat, and see if the opponent has a near equivalent to match it.

Take for instance Green Lantern vs Herald Challenge.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f105/t513639.html


I would make a real Dr. Fate vs. Dr. Strange, on your terms… but I am way to busy with real life shiz, and need to read through stuff to get reacquainted with both.


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Ah, i didn't know that johnny carson. If you Do, Strange shouldn't be handicapped at all.


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Ah, i didn't know that johnny carson. If you Do, Strange shouldn't be handicapped at all.


What handicap?


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What handicap? Um, i guess the one where he cant use his powers i.e he can't get outside help. meaning he gets no Vishanti, Agammotto, no calling on power from the phoenix force, no absorbing unlimited ambiant power from his billions of billions of personally created pocket dimensions(every cell in his body is hiding a pocket dimension). He can't soul steal, can't do jack shit with theses new rules. I even had to admit Thanos would beat him. Not cuz Thanos is that good, but doc can't fight back. Without those rules, Thanos can't win.


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What handicap? Um, i guess the one where he cant use his powers i.e he can't get outside help. meaning he gets no Vishanti, Agammotto, no calling on power from the phoenix force, no absorbing unlimited ambiant power from his billions of billions of personally created pocket dimensions(every cell in his body is hiding a pocket dimension). He can't soul steal, can't do jack shit with theses new rules. I even had to admit Thanos would beat him. Not cuz Thanos is that good, but doc can't fight back. Without those rules, Thanos can't win.


Where was that handicap posted? I don't recall enforcing such rule here.

The only real handicap is the use of standard items.


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Oh, you took what i said wrong. I wasn't talking about you, my big brosephus, i was refering to new forum rules. They're tarded


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Can't the rules just be edited for this thread if it is necessary? That Strange can call a higher power? Don't see why not.


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