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finti
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UK election
It seems like a real exciting and close race  . So to all you Brits what did you vote for and why. (Any chanse you all withdraw from EU  )
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Jun 7th, 2001 03:13 PM |
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Ratcat
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Yeah, Conservatives took us into the Common Market all those years ago, but now they use the Euro, which is really a loginbal progression from the Common Market -> European Community thing, as a political bargianing chip, but it's a lesser of two evils thing at the moment.
The Cons have said we will NOT join the Euro in the next Parliment if they get in. The Labs sat on the fence, but the view is that they will go for the Euro. Not 100% sure on the Lib Dem stance on the Euro, but I think it's a no.
I would vote Lib Dem but, with the current oppinion poles standings, the only way to end the Labour governement is to support the Conservatives. That said, my only issue with the Conservatives is that Hague is such a simpering little **** . If they had a strong leader, like Portillo, then they'd probably walk this election.
So, as I always have, I will be voting for the Conservatives.
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Jun 7th, 2001 05:11 PM |
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mechmoggy
Northern Monkey
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I'm on the extreme left.
But that's just the seating arangement in the office I'm afraid.
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Jun 7th, 2001 05:24 PM |
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Edna Witch
Magic
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Location: The Gingerbread cottage! |
Well I would vote Lib dem but I am afraid i don't agree with there "abolish all independant schools" idea. Hmmm!
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Jun 7th, 2001 05:49 PM |
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Gundark
Mayhem
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Well I hope it doesn't take as long over there as it did over here to decide the winner.
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Jun 7th, 2001 05:51 PM |
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Raz
Meister
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Location: UK Admin |
I can't believe you guys are falling for the "Vote for us and we'll keept he pound" crap. You DO know this is about voting in governments with the the best policies and NOT a "Should we go for the Euro" vote.
And No I would never in a million years vote for Torys. I'm currently on the fence between the Lim Dems and Labour.
BTW finti, according to the opinion polls this is not going to be a close call....but a landslide for labour...again.
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Jun 7th, 2001 05:53 PM |
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Ratcat
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In the final analysis, my vote was to try and push the Labour party out of power.
Education, Healthcare and Transport have all suffered in various ways under the Blair regime. In the 19 or so years of Conservative government that I can remember I always think things were pretty good, though that is my opinion, based on my background, lifestyle, etc.
The closer we bond with Europe, the less of a country we become. I think the whole issue of the Euro is intrinsic to our independence as a nation and our standing in the worldwide arena.
As a nation I think our worldwide standing has fallen in the last four years.
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Jun 7th, 2001 06:00 PM |
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Raz
Meister
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Although our Economy has been the doing great under Labour. Inflation is low, Interest Rates are low, Unemployment in under one million etc.
The transport (I'm assuming you mean trains) was a blunder on Railtracks part...which BTW the Torys privatised!
Do you really think the Torys would do a better job?
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Jun 7th, 2001 06:04 PM |
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Edna Witch
Magic
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Location: The Gingerbread cottage! |
Well I just wanna keep my school. That's all there is to it. What? I'm a kid! I don't kno what I'm doing. Heck they shouldn't even allow me to vote! i don't feel old enough to do it!
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Jun 7th, 2001 06:05 PM |
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Raz
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Edna, where did you hear the "abolish all independant schools".....not from the Torys I hope
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Jun 7th, 2001 06:07 PM |
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Edna Witch
Magic
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Location: The Gingerbread cottage! |
No like I said. It's some Rash Lib Dem policy! Not that they could ever actually inforce it! I can't see it happening myself! There would be riots!
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Jun 7th, 2001 06:10 PM |
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Ratcat
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I'm not blaming them for the issues as such. But they promised improvements and I don't see them. How can you have someone like Two Jags speaking out about why we should all use Public Transport?
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Jun 7th, 2001 06:12 PM |
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Edna Witch
Magic
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Location: The Gingerbread cottage! |
Exactly! Bring back Maggie Thatcher I say! She was the best bloody Prime Minister we had for a long time!
Anyway as much as I would love to stay and talk politics (yeah right!), I have something very important to be doing today so I will see you guys later! Ciao!
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Jun 7th, 2001 06:14 PM |
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Raz
Meister
Gender: Male
Location: UK Admin |
Yes but ALL politians tell us to use the public transports, even though they're not up to notch.
And I don't see them improving under the Tories, with their £20+ billion tax cuts!
Also have you noticed how Hague hasn't hasn't promoted his policies...instead he's tried to turn this into a "save the pound" campaign?
We all know that Labour will give us a referendum...where people can always say no.
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Jun 7th, 2001 06:19 PM |
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finti
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nobody got the irony even after I posted about it 
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Jun 7th, 2001 08:00 PM |
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Ratcat
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Well, I'm not going to vote on the basis of somthing that happened in the 80's.
All I know is that in the 4 years of Labour rule the public services in my area have taken a dramatic downturn, 3 hospitals have been shut whilst only one has been opened and that's already in need on expansion 12 months after it came online.
The roadways are crubling and the cheap and nasty repair job they did just caused more problems than it solved.
Petrol, well don't even go there.
I think the thing about 2 jags precott that got me was at the Labour conference a couple of years back where his wife was driven 300 yards in a Jag to avoid the wind upsetting her hairdo! This is the man who has committed to promote the idea that we don't use our cars for silly little trips....
When that Labour party gets back in, and I think it is a foregone conclusion unfortunately, I think the first thing Blair should do is sack Prescott.
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Jun 7th, 2001 09:04 PM |
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Ushgarak
Paladin
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Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UK Co-Admin |
I think everyone got the irony, Finti, but I'm afriad you opened quite a can of worms, there...
I voted Tory in the end (sorry, Raz, but you know how torn I was), purely based on the quality of local candiates. Which is odd, because I think John Whittingdale is a nutter, but the other candidates were far worse. Locally I voted for the Lib Dems, who have always done good work around here.
The Labour government has been far from perfect, to be sure. I never wanted them in. But it must be said they have got a lot of things working., and social progress has happened in a way that never would have done under the Tories. Heck, the fact that things are happening at ALL was better than the last Tory Government!
Trouble is, a lot of Labour personalities make me very nervous, and meanwhile I am with Edna on the schools thing- some of the Lib-Dems over socialist policies are very worrying indeed, and sometimes Labour is dangerously close to that. Tony Blair ISN'T, but it is always a tenuous control he has.
Heck, I'm not happy with the Tories, either, whoi have plenty of useful stuff but are INSANELY held up on this Euro thing.
Trouble is, a thread about Europe would go on forEVER...
So like I say, in the end, I took it on local candidates, and there you go.
I feel bound ro repeat to Raz, however, that the Lib-Dems are the only people insane enough to put up the taxes necessary to abolish tuition fees. Basic economics has defeated the studnets there, and that is a force that is foten far more powerful than politics...
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Jun 8th, 2001 03:15 AM |
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Edna Witch
Magic
Gender: Unspecified
Location: The Gingerbread cottage! |
Wow! he actually agrees with one of my political views! Not that I have many!
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Jun 8th, 2001 03:20 AM |
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Ushgarak
Paladin
Gender: Male
Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UK Co-Admin |
Well... I am worried about you coming to hast decisions on the Euro... VERY complex subject...
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Jun 8th, 2001 03:26 AM |
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