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Did US REALLY land on the Moon?

Fox recently showed a conspiracy program which shows that America might NOT have actually landed on the moon. Did any of you catch it?

I was able to get a copy and was very surprised by the evidence they provide.
Heres a list:
  • The American Flag shown being planted in the moon flaps, even though there is no air or atmosphere on the moon.
  • Despite clarity of deep space, the stars were missing from the black lunar sky.
  • No blast crater below the lunar lander. Where the powerful rocket would have fired.
  • If the speed of the lunar footage is increased, it looks like astronauts are on earths gravity, suggesting its slowed down tape.
  • Snapshots taken by austronaut suggest there were two distinct source of ligting even though the sun was the only source for them. A snapshot is below:
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There was a ton of other stuff, but I can't be bothered listing them all.


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I wondered if this would ever make a GDF thread!

There was a C5 programme about this a few days back as well, which I missed, and an in-depth discussion during rhe 30th anniversary, which I DID see.

Now, I DO think we landed on the moon. But beyond doubt, there are a lot of interesting questions that NASA MSUT answer if they want to quell speculation!

The most brilliant 'error' is Buzz Aldrin's feet, which somehow are in different postions on the photos than they are on the film and he climbs down the ladder... whoops! Something wrong there...


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What about the fact that with todays high powered telescopes you can see the base of the lunar landers that were left behind. Seems pretty conclusive to me.

And where did all those Saturn 5's go?

Sorry, didn't see the program.

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I never saw the flag flapping in the original news releases. eek! confused


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RC, current conspiracy theory is that the landers went there, but there was no-one on board. Radiation making the trip impossible for humans is meant to be the barrier.


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Here's a pretty good site explaining all the "unanswered questions" posed by the conspiracy theorists.
http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/tands.m.../moon_hoax.html

There are countless other sites out there that say similar things too.


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Oh, I know, I have check this out before. Still, as I see it:

1. Why doesn't NASA itself provide the answers? They really are only making things worse by staying quiet all thew time.

2. There are still a few points unasnwered, wherever I go...:

a. The film/photo inconsistency I mentioned above, which is incontrovertible proof that one or the other (probably the photo) is a fake- though this is NOT proof that there were no landings at all.

b. The cosmic ray problem (that site you gave, Shoe, disucusses the problem of the Van Allen belts... I had never heard the belets as a problem! Just goes to show there are always more crazy ideas....). Plenty of modern day phsyics makes out that cosmic rays would be lethal evben on a short trip like that. Space is much more hostile than we believed.

c. The photos... oh God, some of the nuts talk for hours about those... some of them are pros, and oif course some of the people who argue the other way are pros, and it really does get enormously complex and difficult to understand... so forget that one...

d. The guy who desinged the camera swears blind that it shouldn't have worked. I understand the damn thing wouldn't have even been able to wind on.

I am of the opinion that the moon landings DID happen, but most of the shots they got were so poor that they faked a few for our convenience.


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Heck no, they just put a lunar lander in a studio and made it look crappy. I bet they made the footage at the same time they did 2001: A Space Odyssee. Just some testcases for Doug Trumbull.
They only way to find out is go there and check out the evidence.


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If it was a hoax, it would definately be the hoax of the century. Much bigger than bigfoot and the crop circles secrets revealed.

Actually, I thought we had talked about this once before, I remember queeq and I discussing Capricorn One, about the fake Mars landing.


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quote:
Originally posted by RC:
<STRONG>What about the fact that with todays high powered telescopes you can see the base of the lunar landers that were left behind. Seems pretty conclusive to me.
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Actually according to the program we cannot see the flag or the buggys left behind, even with the best telescope in the world. Although a Japenese rocket will be going there next year to take close up pictures.

On the flag waving theory, the website Shoe gave said the austronauts were causing the waving. Have a look at this, it looks like wind to me:

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There was the temperature thing aswell, when they are in the shadows the temperature goes -250 and in the sun +250, and supposedly the suits can't handle that sort of temperature change.


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How can you say it looks like wind in a STILL image?

Sounds like the shopw took a completely unbiased view of the whole thing.... NOT.

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shopw? whats that?

Anyway that pic was a capture I took from the video, which clearly showed it flapping independently from the austronaut IMO.


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So, the basic gist of the show was that the moon landings were a 3.5 year long hoax (Apollo 11-17).

What happened to all the Saturn V Launch vehicles?

What about the splashdowns, how where they achieved.

Did the show actually recognise that Apollo missions broke the atmospheric freshold?

What purpose would a hoax be? Aside from a massive finacial coverup?

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Actually the program suggested that no man has ever landed on the moon, due to radiation and what not.

That is also the supposed reason why Russia to this day has never landed on the moon.


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I'm going to call Area 51 and get this whole thing straightened out. laughing out loud

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a hoax, knowing our lying scummy government.


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Hmm...talking about Area 51, thats what the proggie said was used for the filming...and why its off limits.


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Well that's not right at all. Area 51 has been off limits since 1950, because that's where they took all the Roswell junk.


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See! An excellent location for a secret soundstage.
You shouldn't believe everything you see on tv or read in the newspapers. laughing out loud


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So what we are saying is that all the work Lucas has done in the field of special effects was actually already done by NASA in the 60's and 70's

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They must have done SOMETHING with the $40 Billion budget they had eek!

Wasn't the spacewalk broadcast on TV? Valid point queeq wink


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