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Mastering Languages ...

Well, discussed this subject with mah a couple of minutes ago and I'm very interested in knowing what other people think aboot it...

This guy named Stols is my prof Old French at the uni and he once said in one of his disturbing classes that
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you only truly mastered a foreign language when you can make puns without thinking about it.


So, after some thinking... I came to the conclusion that from all the language I know, I haven't mastered a single one of them.
I'm not even sure about Dutch, cause it's my mother tongue, I perhaps don't pay attention to it when I do it, but come to think of it, I'm extremely sure I NEVER made a pun in french and the only puns I made in English were an accident, I mean, it wasn't like "oh! I can make a pun out of this one!"

In other words, for that prof-guy, I haven't mastered English yet, though I'm quite convinced of myself that I can put up a good and deep conversation (bad spelling though) but apparently that's not enough.

Now, my big question here is ... is the prof right? if you can make puns without thinking, have you mastered the language? or how would you define it?

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For me mastering a language, means being able to carry intelligent conversion for a long period of time, without switching back and forth from one to another big grin

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about any subject? cause if you are interested in ie fashion you can can more easily make a good convo in a foreign language about that than one about ie history

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I speak Serbian language as good as i do English. I've mastered them both, in reading, writing and grammar! smile


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Oh and Irene

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في هذا العالم ثلاثة أشخاص أفسدوا البشرية : راعي غنم , طبيب و راكب الجمال , و راكب الجمال هو أسوأ نشال و أسوأ مشعوذ بين الثلاثة

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yeah, but lil bit, the question is what makes you say you mastered it?
how do you grade it?

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Milla eek! Ya tebe kahayu happy
And yerss yes any subject, like just on the spot if you are asked and you can pull it off big grin

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Serbian is my mother tongue, which i spoke for 13 years from my birth. And English I started to learn when i was 8 and have been speaking it non stop for the past 6 years, seeing how i live in England.

I obviously speak English good enough to have done my exams well and have been accepted to the University.


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في هذا العالم ثلاثة أشخاص أفسدوا البشرية : راعي غنم , طبيب و راكب الجمال , و راكب الجمال هو أسوأ نشال و أسوأ مشعوذ بين الثلاثة

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and do you have to talk without stopping a lot or what? I mean, fluent, not so fluent , ...

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If mastering a language is the ability to make puns without thinking then I've not mastered English - the only language I've ever spoken, and I consider myself to have quite a good grasp of it!


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yeah, that's my problem too, cause I'm not sure if can make puns without thinking in my mother tongue

so, ... how would you define it baylin?

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quote:
Originally posted by silver_tears
For me mastering a language, means being able to carry intelligent conversion for a long period of time, without switching back and forth from one to another big grin


I think Silver defined it pretty well for me!


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You truly master a language when you can own someone in divaish madman sexually oriented FLAMEWARSstick out tongue


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why don't you show us, mah wink

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I wouldn't state a good example as a mod...That, and I would be bannedstick out tongue


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minor details, mah wink

you have to show what you mean in order to let me understand what you exactly mean wink

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Yeah Mah show us uneducated language-less folk what you mean


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No you see..there's a censorship filter here, so it's not really physically possible!


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that or you just proved you haven't mastered english yet wink

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i was pretty close to mastering spanish back home yes half my friends were hispanic so we would sometimes switch languages mid-conversation. i haven't spoken it for a while though.


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