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I'm back for now..

I have returned here to ask all of you Anti-Americans a question:

If you hate us so much, why do you even bother with us?

DO you really believe each and every lie that your ancestors spread about America? Do you ever stop and think for yourseves about the things you enjoy today (like your FREEDOM) because we worked WITH you, not AGAINST you, to preserve?

American and British soldiers (and Canadians) all died for you on the shores of Normandy on D-Day 1944. America forgave ALL of Europe it's total wartime debts so that none of you even paid any interest on the post-war reconstruction....we propped up Paris in 1959 with billions to help their failing economy..and all we get is ridiculed and laughed at and made to be decadent and warmongering.

I think it's time you STOPPED believeing all the lies you were told by your forefathers and looked for the truth yourself.

How do you think I feel, as an American citizen, hearing this shit every day, knowing that the average European would rather pist on the grave of an American WW2 vet than thank him or her for their sacrifice? Do you expect me NOT to be mad? Well I'm sorry but I don;t have to stand for this just because some of you hate Bush. You treat all Americans like Bush is our fault.

What on this green Earth did America EVER do to Europe? NOTHING. I guess NATO and the Rapid Deployment Force and the cohesive military training we did together to prevent the Cold War was for nothing, huh?
WE HELD YOU TOGETHER, and WE WORKED TOGETHER!!! And all of you treat it like it was nothing.

You guys have your sovereignty, you have a good economy, and yet you refuse to pay tribute to those who helped you attain all of that?

As if Eurpe never had any dirty dealings? The English and Dutch and slavery, France invading Italy, France imposing colonial rule over Vietnam, England and France using the American Indian to fight on opposite sides over the Fur Trade in the French and Indian War...

And France, take note: It was US who rescued your sorry asses from French Indochina when we came to evacuate you when the Viet-Mihn handed you your asses, and YOU are the reason we got involved, because we were fired upon as we were evacuating you (the Gulf Of Tonkin Incident in thr South China Sea.) And yet you criticize US for stepping in and taking you places, and losing far more men than you ever lost. You're fu*king welcome........

And yet for all this, I am nothing but a warmongering, decadent American who deserved 9-11 and who will never hear the laughter of your mocking voices as you read this article, or hear the silent cries of the families who lost their loved ones that day. I want you all to remember ONE THING. it could have been YOU......

And you know what, it dosen't make me ashamed to be American, it only makes me STRONGER. And it also makes me realize that while many of you oppose us and ridicule us, and take out the entire world on us...it also makes me know that there are silent ones who do appreciate us. And I am trying to give them a voice.

We aren't right about everything, noone is, but you should see the good and stop concentrating on the bad. And if you keep acting this way, you're only stengthening our resolve.

So as of this point, I am back here, and I thank MechMoggy for helpng me as much as he did, and all I have to say is this-stop acting so Goddamn spoiled, grow up, and learn the truth for yourselves. America IS your friend.

There's good and bad in everyone, and you should see that. But you treat all Americans like we have an invisible bulls-eye on our foreheads, and it's time you stopped. Grow up.

That said I now return you to your regularly scheduled program, "America, The Great Satan, A Terrorist's View..."

Thanks for listening, (or not)

DB

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man are you okay huh


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"One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half.-----Sir Winston Churchill

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You all see the U.N as preservers of human life...if that is so, how can they look at dictators like Saddam and Pol Pot of Cambodia, and say that THEY are preserving human life?

You say that 9-11 isn't a reason for war, when in reality the act itself goes against every principal the U.N. was created for, the preservation of peace and freedom. I'm sorry but someone murders 3,000 people in one day, and causes billions in damage, I would say that was a clear declaration of war. The U.N. is a joke, and had they had the balls to stand up this type of radical thnking years ago, maybe today there WOULD be peace. The U.N. needs serious updating.

Or is it that you're afraid to help us because of the exremist\socio-political backlashes within your own backyards? No TRUE leader gives in to terror, or it's architects of fear. And it's partly your fault that terror is out of hand. Get over it, terrorism IS an act of war. But you'll never know because you're too comfy in your 1,000 dollar Corinthian leather chairs to do anything about it...now Russia is also suferring terrorism, and that could easily be the broader stepping stone to a continental campaign against all of mainland Europe.

You forget that many terrorists are also funded by revisonists of old movements, such as hardline Socialist or Fascist parties. But yet THAT kind of terrorism is OK, right? OK Because it's promoting one's race and identity....something that Europe has always kept in it's pockets and used conveniently when the situation arises.

Just to let you know your little organization you call a 'peace-keeping' outfit is the biggest and oldest joke in political history because you fail to see terrorism as an act of war, well then what do you call it if it isn't war?

Let me guess, 'freedom fighters,' right? I guess it means it was OK for the IRA to miurder pro-British citizens in Ireland as well as Brits themsleves, right? The U.N. makes me sick......

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quote:
Originally posted by ash007
man are you okay huh


Yeah I'm fine....just a bit incensed that political discussions were outlawed here a while back and yet they were allowed to continue, with the European and non-American sectors having free run to say whatever about America while Americans wee blocked or had their replies erased.

Think back...you remember the deal we had about terrorism, and how 'it's all America's fault' and 'we finally got what we deserved' and all that shit. And Fire disagreeing with me that Islamic extremists are opium-addicted nutcases with their imagined hardline model of enforcement thru fear...so I guess he thinks America deserved 9-11 as well? I guess beautiful Arab women have to be killed for showing their faces and men have to die for wanting sports and education, right?

He has a lot to learn about America, and you ALL do.

I see from your location you are from England, Ash007. I have NO PROBLEM WITH YOU WHATSOEVER. England has helped Americ more times than we can count, and we have a beautiful working relationship. I will NEVER say anything bad about England in this life or the next. We are alawys there for each other, and I hope it stays that way. And I want to say proudly and loudly, THANK YOU! You guys are true allies and the rest just want to be on the whining ( excuse me, winning) side.

But I'm tired of the world shitting on America for OUR shortcomings. NOONE is perfect. And it seems you all hate us, and I'm growing very tired of it.

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Political debates are not allowed. There are many people who are going to respond to that question and bad atmosphere will be created.


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Geez, Dagons Blade, calm down. This is why they were banned. We [the mods] lock and delete all political threads. This one will be deleted too.


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Considering the U.S has been around for only 200 years you guys have done quite well you have a great economy, and you Americans are very nice people who always say hello and there just great. I mean i love America its great country.

But you have remember the U.S was built on the foundation of Free speach, which means people have the right to say whatever they like, it may be right or wrong but it is still a Freedom. So when you actually see people Critizing the U.S or the U.K actually smile because your country gave people the right to do that.

When there was a anti-war march in the U.K last year i was happy not because i am anti-war, because we actually have the freedom to protest. And not many other countries do sad

So you shouldn't worry what other people think they are only a Minorty.
You should instead be proud of your country i mean you guys helped us in WW2 and i really appreacte that.


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With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.These words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie -- as awisdom, and warning. The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged.

"One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half.-----Sir Winston Churchill

Old Post Feb 9th, 2004 01:18 AM
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Come on Mods let the guy speak as long as he doesn't insult anyone or be rude.
Iam sure he entitled to write what he wants


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With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.These words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie -- as awisdom, and warning. The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged.

"One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half.-----Sir Winston Churchill

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Not on KMC he's not, closed.


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