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I Just Heard On TV That Abraham Lincoln Was Gay!
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Dazzler619
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Shocked I Just Heard On TV That Abraham Lincoln Was Gay!

Last night while I was surfing the net, I heard on Fox News Channel that he was a homosexual.C'mon! The guy was married and had 4 kids! Total bull****! mad

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Just because he had a wife and children doesnt mean he wasn't gay.

And even if he was a homosexual, what difference does that make? Didnt make any difference when he did all he did for slavery in America, and should make zero difference now - in fact, its absolutely irrelevant.


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Oh yea...the TV also tells you that crap like American Idol is a good show.

Just because the tv says it doesn't mean it's true...and why's it matter to begin with?

edit: ah yes. It was Fox News. Do you believe what Fox says...? At all?


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Seriously, what the crap

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what the hell is fox trying to prove?
lincoln was gay? who gives a shit?

man those ultra right wingers just cant get over that
emancipation proclamation can they?

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And what proof did they offer? Nothing like outing a guy that's been dead for over one hundred years and help to put an end to slavery. If he was gay, who cares. If he wasn't gay, that's in incredibly bad taste, but hey, we're talkin' about FOX here.roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Actually its book. Not TV. It was written by several accredited historians. From what I've read about it in the paper, the evidence is credible. But we really have no way of knowing for sure. Everyone who was gay back then was very much in the closet. African-Americans were still slaves at that time, homosexuality was out of the question. If Lincoln was gay, I really don't care. What matters is his actions. But it does show what a gay person is capable of in society. If he wasn't he wasn't, if he was he was. History remains the same


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The Intimate World of Abraham by C. A. Tripp is the result of more than 20 years of studying Lincoln's private life.

Evidence indicates that Lincoln was unnaturally uncomfortable around women, never had a love match with Ann Rutledge, suffered through a strained marriage with Mary Todd Lincoln, and had a gay sexual relationship with his longtime friend Joshua Speed.

He also details the relationship Lincoln had with another man with whom he shared his bed, David Derickson, captain of his bodyguards. As well, Tripp describes another lover who said Lincoln's thighs 'were as perfect as a human being could be'.

The book also contains poems discovered by Tripp written by the young Lincoln including:

Billy has married a boy

The girlies he tried on every side
But none could he get to agree

All was in vain he went home again
And since that is married to Natty


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quote:
he evidence is credible. But we really have no way of knowing for sure.


Isn't that a bit of a conflicting statement?


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Lincoln was a stoner too...


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By credible evidence, I meant that the is enough evidence to support the theory. However the resources for which the evidence derives itself from are slim and limited. That's why we'll never positively know if he was gay or not. He's as a dead as doornail. Unless we have a picture of him snogging with another guy, the theory is just a theory.


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Yeah right,the guy was married and had four kids and he is gay? yeah whatever. give me a break.


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ALL homosexual men were married and had kids in the 1800's. Nobody's gonna come out of the closet at the time when blacks are still wearing shackles. Homosexuals began coming out of the closet around the 1920's. The 60's were definitive years.


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quote:
Originally posted by §pearhead
Oh yea...the TV also tells you that crap like American Idol is a good show.


laughing So true!


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He's dead, who gives a shit?


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laughing out loud well that made this convo pointless with one sentance!!






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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Draco69
[B]ALL homosexual men were married and had kids in the 1800's.

Well that would make them BI sexual not homosexual.there is a difference you know. big grin


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It didn't matter if you were bisexual or homosexual. You got married and had kids regardless of your sexual orientation. Homosexuality was punishable by casturation. It wouldn't be in your best interest, if you were homosexual, to have a partner of your own gender. You'd be ostracized, casturated and thrown out of town. Some people didn't even know that what homosexuality was or even if it even existed. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Somehow I doubt it he was a christian you know


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EVERYONE was a Christian back then. Like having a christian faith has anything to do with homosexuality. There's gay Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Baptists, etc.


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quote:
Originally posted by Draco69
EVERYONE was a Christian back then. Like having a christian faith has anything to do with homosexuality. There's gay Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Baptists, etc.



Gay muslims right roll eyes (sarcastic)


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