i can not explain how sad the holcaust was for the whole world except for those damn nazis but for all those people that died all those INNOCENT JEWS that died i just cant belive some one could be that cruel to a certain race of people
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A rabbi and a Priest walk into a bar...
Just kidding.
This wasn't the first time people enaged in mass killing however,
though the impersonal, "mechanical" way it was done makes it
seem more terrible than, say, the some 7 million Ukrainians who
were killed by Stalin's artificially-made famine of the mid-late
1930's.
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A murder doesn't have to murder. He does it because he enjoys doing it. It is quite possible for a murder to live in society for his whole life without ever engageing, Even in the behavior, of murder.
Fortunatly, for better places than this, it all ends with us.
So what if we all die. At least the horror of what goes on with this world ends with us. I feel that is justice well served.
Don't let the murderers scar you into not loveing a little while your here. What's the worst they can do...kill you.
The Holocaust was one of the worst things to happen to an Human ethnic-group, but we must remember that many others died in the Holocaust as well, and not only those of the Jewish faith: Homosexuals; Communists; Slavs; Gypsies; etc., etc.
I personally....died a little inside when I think about the Holocaust, and how one group of people could commit such an act of genocide.....
Dont forget that thing like the hlocaust happenned throughout human history. The WW2 holocaust was remembered because it happenned quite recently, and was on a larger scale than any previous ethnic cleansing, but it's not the first time that a nation has decided to try to wipe out a cultural group of people
I agree with 666, stop making it seem jews are the only one that suffered from the holocaust. gays, lesbians, artists, ... they all got murdered, respect those too by at least mentioning them
and don't blaim all the nazi's, there are quite some (if not the biggest percentage) that knew nothing about this. Unfortunatly some used their phrase "Wir habben es nicht gewußt" (chances of misspelling or gramatical errors are high, german isn't my strong side), as a way to get out of their trial.
definitly not all, only the 'high society' of officers, those working at the camps and perhaps those that did trainduty, but not many more ... if memory serves
how many people were actually PRESENT at those camps? those people fighting at the east-border against russia? those in africa? those that tried to conquer brittain? they were no where near the camps at all, not to mention that actually most camps were workingcamps, where people had to work but did not get gassed/shot.
so even if someone knew that (i.e.) Auswitz existed, it didn't necessarily mean that the guy knew it was a gas-camp
i don't know. i think some would notice thet their neigbours have dissapeared or something...
this not-knowing thing reminds me one storry our history teacher told
the train with jews from holland (i'm not sure) were travelling to one gas-camp\
and someone in the station asked them where are they going, and after hearig the name said it is death camp. and they said it not. they though they're going to some sanatorium, and they EVEN PAiD for tickets.
Most of the Jews believed, as did the German people, and most of the world in fact, that they were going to be resettled in a jewish homeland, where they would be away from decent germans and able to live a good Jewish life without prejudice and interference..... This was a popular idea, and the French, British and several other nations applauded it... also, don't forget that the Germans were not the only ones to place Jews in concentration camps.... the Vichy regime in France operated two camps, independently of german control... german soldiers in the area commented that the conditions there were "inhumane..." and remember the Jehovah's Witnesses.... given the choice between denying their religion and being sent to the camps, they went to the camps.....
And a lot of the Jews, Gipsies, Witnesses et al did end up in work camps.... they were used as slave labour in German factories by people such as Schindler, who grew very rich by having an unpaid work force.... a lot of the goods used by Germany were made by camp inmates... the Nazi regime was pragmatic about this... the prisoners were worked till they died, and even after death they were useful, providing fat and bone ash for soap and candles, skin for lampshades and sinew for bindings... the bones also provided glue and were boiled down for gelatin... the hair was used for seat padding.... the Nazis definitely got their moneys worth....
But yet, they all were strongly aware of the anti-semitic feeling in germany. People were encourages to tell anyone if their neighbours or family were jewish
While not attempting to limit the atrocity that was The Holocaust, and it has been stated that originally the Germans were just going to relocate the Jews as they were rounded up and gathered for the sole purpose of evacuation from the 'motherland', Germany, and it wasn't until the United States entered the war that Hitler and company finally decided to exterminate those in concentration camps. It is rather a stark embarassment to contemporary society today that one can speak of The Holocaust and immediately label 'pure evil' and all the consolations and heartache to ensue, when even today we see the very same ethnic cleansing, the very same division and segregation and inequality in today's world, and the very same police state which the Nazis were so famously depicted as being the best purveyors of. Even today, the Jewish state of Israel is committing cruel acts to innocent people just because of their race, even removing their homes, not recognising certain rights, and pushing the Palestinians to the brink of extinction with their illegal wall. It is quite ironic that the state in which to home those who had no homes on the aftermath of The Holocaust would give birth to another form of dehumanisation that were inflicted on their own ancestors.
I write this to only put it in context that if you want to grieve for those lives lost in The Holocaust, grieve also for those who are losing their lives now in the same form of brutal oppression that encounters people today.
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