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Masculinity: The Root of All Violent Acts?

Something I read in some feminist psychology.


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No wonder...


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It has some validity. Especially in reference to the Colombine shootings.


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Insecurity with masculinity leads to violent acts more than masculinity itself.

Nobody expects you to not get pissed off and fight when the occasion calls for it, but there's not really a truer saying than "It takes a bigger man to walk away."

The amount of fights I've seen started because the guy/s are worried about how they'll look if they don't, is astounding.

You can be a man without being violent or what not. So it's only guys who are insecure and dumb that view fighting as a masculine thing.

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The above is actually the argument feminists are arguing.


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Cant fighting over Masculintity be the same as fighting over a women? So you could argue Women are the root of all violence.. or at least most of it. Since many fights I have seen have been over a girl. Both guys want to seem like the most masculine one in front of the girl or whatever.. Ill try to explain it better later.


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Anything said by feminists automatically become null and void. I don't care if they say "all humans breath air", the fact that they are feminists makes them wrong, somehow.


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No, not really what they are arguing is that boys are programmed to do violence. Encouraged more likely. They are socially constructed by the following tenets:

The antifeminine element
Success element
Aggressive element
Sexual element
Self-Reliant element


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Anything said by feminists automatically become null and void. I don't care if they say "all humans breath air", the fact that they are feminists makes them wrong, somehow.


I'm not sure what you're saying exactly.


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I don't care, the fact that a femnist said it makes it incorrect. Doesn't matter how much sense it makes, if a feminist says it, it is wrong.


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Oh. Okay. So you think all femiists are wrong. No prob.


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Oh. Okay. So you think all femiists are wrong. No prob.


Precisely


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I don't care, the fact that a femnist said it makes it incorrect. Doesn't matter how much sense it makes, if a feminist says it, it is wrong.
agreed


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I don't care, the fact that a femnist said it makes it incorrect. Doesn't matter how much sense it makes, if a feminist says it, it is wrong.


Hear! Hear! Feminists eat carpet.


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Hear! Hear! Feminists eat carpet.

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I dont trust feminist writings...theyre always biased...

its not masculinity.... it has absolutely nothing to do with gender roles. Guys are supposed to be masculine, which is a characteristic of the male gender role in America... There are plenty of violent females.

it does have everything to do however, with body chemistry. Testosterone and adrenaline are big factors in any violent act. Although there is more testosterone in the male body, it is present (in different levels) in the female body, which can cause aggressive behavior. The adrenaline is in male and female, and is a natural defense system. When a person is in a confrontational situation, adrenaline causes a fight or flight reaction, which is a basic instinct in any human or animal, male or female. It's natural and uncontrollable.

The medula oblongata is one of the most important regions of the brain, and it controls all of the most basic organ and muscle functions, as well as the entire nervous system (which is where aggressive tendancies originate).
The M.O region is located at the back and base of the brain, connects to the spinal cord, and includes everything except the cerebellum (which controls balance and coordination) and the pons. Most of the brain nerves are present here.
The M.O adjusts the heart and respitory rate as necessary, which are key factors in a confrontation situation. Animals with an enlarged M.O are scientifically proven to be much more aggressive than other animals.

Certain types of over the counter and prescription medications, including anti-histamines found in nearly all allergy and cold medicines(suprisingly) and chemicals in anti-seizure medication have been proven to cause aggressive behavior.
There are also mental conditions that cause this type of behavior. ADHD, Autism, Epilepsy/mental retardation, and children who are suffering from or have recovered from brain trauma or brain infections are all known to have aggressive behavior.

Lead poisoning, as well as iron and deficiency anemia, prenatal exposure to cigarettes, alcohol, and drugs, are all well known-causes.

I'm not even going to get into the effects of the enviornment in which the person lives. It would take forever.
But there is a phrase/theory that was originally coined by early Sociologists, but is now synonymous with the Scientology religion...which states "man is a product of his enviornment".
This basically means that where you live affects your behavior. You see drug dealers in rough neighborhoods, because that is what they were exposed to growing up, and that is what they learned because of it. Sexual abusers were more often than not abused during their childhood. These are just a few examples, you can look up more if you want.

Whew! So, as proven by medical experts NOT FEMINISTS, aggressive behavior is caused by chemical imbalances, natural functioning, and enviorment....NOT GENDER!!!


b!tches...


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That's what I meant. Sorry for confusion. The socially constructed gender role of masculinity. That's what I meant. Masculinity differs with each culture.


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That's what I meant. Sorry for confusion. The socially constructed gender role of masculinity. That's what I meant. Masculinity differs with each culture.


youre wrong. stop defending feminists. theyre wrong too.
the "socially constructed gender role of masculinity" has pretty much nothing to do with it.

even when guys fight, one will back off because he knows he'll get beat. that is animalistic not masculine. watch animals fight, one eventually gives up or backs down so they dont die.

Even if the fight is over a girl, it is being controlled by the sex drive... or alcohol....
there isnt a guy that says lets fight because society thinks i should. the guy says lets fight because i want to get laid later. its also animalistic. animals do this in the wild too.


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I'm not defending feminists. I just find some of their ideas intriguing.


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Yeah. "MEN ARE THE DEVIL" is really intriguing.


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