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Was Tom Cruise right about psychology?

Is it really just a pseudoscience? Personally I believe that some aspects of it are very "unscientific" However, I wouldn't completely discredit everything about the field.


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Okay, where to start.

Psychology is indeed an actual science. Not a natural science (like biology or physics), persay, but still a science. What it is the study of the mind and human behaviors -- the word itself means "study of the mind".

Unscientific in what ways? You must realize that science is not something that is hard and fast and is something that is always changing based on what people find out, right? Psychology is studying people's minds and behaviors. Something that can be very erratic. It can come up with generalizations as to why people act/think a certain way, but as every person is different there will always be things that fall outside of what is the general consensus.

If you've studied anything about psychology you'll see how theories developed long ago are often changed or discarded entirely when new research comes into light, and that new theories are created all the time -- same as with natural sciences (or what is traditionally thought to be a science).

As for what Tom Cruise thinks about psychology.....the man doesn't know shit. Anyone who's taken as much as a high school psych course should know this.

And before you ask what my opinion matters or what knowledge I have of the subject, I am a psych major, and am studying to be a psychologist.


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Okay, where to start.

Psychology is indeed an actual science. Not a natural science (like biology or physics), persay, but still a science. What it is the study of the mind and human behaviors -- the word itself means "study of the mind".

Unscientific in what ways? You must realize that science is not something that is hard and fast and is something that is always changing based on what people find out, right? Psychology is studying people's minds and behaviors. Something that can be very erratic. It can come up with generalizations as to why people act/think a certain way, but as every person is different there will always be things that fall outside of what is the general consensus.

If you've studied anything about psychology you'll see how theories developed long ago are often changed or discarded entirely when new research comes into light, and that new theories are created all the time -- same as with natural sciences (or what is traditionally thought to be a science).

As for what Tom Cruise thinks about psychology.....the man doesn't know shit. Anyone who's taken as much as a high school psych course should know this.

And before you ask what my opinion matters or what knowledge I have of the subject, I am a psych major, and am studying to be a psychologist.


Well said.


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Is Tom Cruise right about anything?

The answer - No.

What the shit does Tom Cruise know about psychology or science in general?

The answer - Nothing.

What's Tom Cruise good for?

The answer - Making a moron out of himself for comedians to exploit.


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Wait does Cruise hate psychiatry or psychology?
He knows nothing about either.
For the record: There is such a thing as chemical imbalance in the body.


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Psychiatry and Psychology are basically the same thing, they both require study in the field of psychology, the main difference between a psychiatrist and a psychologist is that a psychiatrist has a medical degree and a psychologist has a doctorate of philosophy or psychology (PhD or PsyD). Psychiatrists deal more with the medical aspect of the field and can prescribe meds.

And yes, indeed there are such things as chemical imbalances, and they're responsible for the majority of mental conditions (everything from depression to schizophrenia).


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Is Tom Cruise right about anything?

The answer - No.

What the shit does Tom Cruise know about psychology or science in general?

The answer - Nothing.

What's Tom Cruise good for?

The answer - Making a moron out of himself for comedians to exploit.


Yet he will make more in a year then most of us in a lifetime.


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Yet he will make more in a year then most of us in a lifetime
doesnt change the fact that he made a complete ass out of himself, and filmakers might look to others when casting for lead role in predicted cashbusters flicks

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Yet he will make more in a year then most of us in a lifetime.


Must give a hall of a blowjob, huh?


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Originally posted by Lana
Okay, where to start.

Psychology is indeed an actual science. Not a natural science (like biology or physics), persay, but still a science. What it is the study of the mind and human behaviors -- the word itself means "study of the mind".


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Definition of Science

The observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena.
Such activities restricted to a class of natural phenomena.
Such activities applied to an object of inquiry or study.



It falls under the loose definition of science, which is essentially the study of "natural phenomena." I could categorize many types of belief systems as sciences using this definition.

Keep in mind that Astrology, Graphology, Phrenolgy, and many other fields of study claim themselves to be sciences using this definition as well.

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Unscientific in what ways?


Broad generalizations and techniques that don't rely on the scientific method. Like most forms of psychoanalysis, hypnosis, and other psychotherapies.

In addition to this it has been found that active placebos given to many having "chemical imbalances", are just as effective as the standard medications given to them to treat such imbalances.

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If you've studied anything about psychology you'll see how theories developed long ago are often changed or discarded entirely when new research comes into light, and that new theories are created all the time -- same as with natural sciences (or what is traditionally thought to be a science).



A bit innaccurate. Theories are never completely discarded. The initial hypothesis behind a theory may change, however, the fundamentals which make up a theory usually remain the same.

The conclusion is generally the fundemental element still thought to exist, however, a different hypothesis is produced that gives a better explination as to why it exists.

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As for what Tom Cruise thinks about psychology.....the man doesn't know shit. Anyone who's taken as much as a high school psych course should know this.


Personally I think the whole scientology theology is kookoo, but the man did raise some valid points. Many automatically assume that everything they learn from science class or read from a science book to be the "absolute truth", which is a very dogmatic/close minded POV.

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And before you ask what my opinion matters or what knowledge I have of the subject, I am a psych major, and am studying to be a psychologist.


Attempting to get a degree in a particular field of study doesn't automatically equate your opinion as being valid.


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It means you've studied the topic much more then most people, which means you will thus know more about the topic then most people, which means that you're opinion is generally going to be more valid then those who haven't spent the same amount of time/dedication learning a particular field - I.E. Tom Cruise - I.E. Dumbass hypocrite.


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Oh, I did.

My bad!


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yeah better stay sharp man we wont tolerate too much slacking off when it comes to Mrlaughing out loud Cruise

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I'll be sure to be on my toes from now on!


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oh your a ballet dancer?

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