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Bush Teleconference With Soldiers Staged

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By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer Thu Oct 13, 4:35 PM ET

WASHINGTON - It was billed as a conversation with U.S. troops, but the questions
President Bush asked on a teleconference call Thursday were choreographed to match his goals for the war in
Iraq and Saturday's vote on a new Iraqi constitution.
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"This is an important time," Allison Barber, deputy assistant defense secretary, said, coaching the soldiers before Bush arrived. "The president is looking forward to having just a conversation with you."

Barber said the president was interested in three topics: the overall security situation in Iraq, security preparations for the weekend vote and efforts to train Iraqi troops.

As she spoke in Washington, a live shot of 10 soldiers from the Army's 42nd Infantry Division and one Iraqi soldier was beamed into the Eisenhower Executive Office Building from Tikrit — the birthplace of former Iraqi leader
Saddam Hussein.

"I'm going to ask somebody to grab those two water bottles against the wall and move them out of the camera shot for me," Barber said.

A brief rehearsal ensued.

"OK, so let's just walk through this," Barber said. "Captain Kennedy, you answer the first question and you hand the mike to whom?"

"Captain Smith," Kennedy said.

"Captain. Smith? You take the mike and you hand it to whom?" she asked.

"Captain Kennedy," the soldier replied.

And so it went.

"If the question comes up about partnering — how often do we train with the Iraqi military — who does he go to?" Barber asked.

"That's going to go to Captain Pratt," one of the soldiers said.

"And then if we're going to talk a little bit about the folks in Tikrit — the hometown — and how they're handling the political process, who are we going to give that to?" she asked.

Before he took questions, Bush thanked the soldiers for serving and reassured them that the U.S. would not pull out of Iraq until the mission was complete.

"So long as I'm the president, we're never going to back down, we're never going to give in, we'll never accept anything less than total victory," Bush said.

The president told them twice that the American people were behind them.

"You've got tremendous support here at home," Bush said.

Less than 40 percent in an AP-Ipsos poll taken in October said they approved of the way Bush was handling Iraq. Just over half of the public now say the Iraq war was a mistake.

White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Thursday's event was coordinated with the Defense Department but that the troops were expressing their own thoughts. With satellite feeds, coordination often is needed to overcome technological challenges, such as delays, he said.

"I think all they were doing was talking to the troops and letting them know what to expect," he said, adding that the president wanted to talk with troops on the ground who have firsthand knowledge about the situation.

The soldiers all gave Bush an upbeat view of the situation.

The president also got praise from the Iraqi soldier who was part of the chat.

"Thank you very much for everything," he gushed. "I like you."

On preparations for the vote, 1st Lt. Gregg Murphy of Tennessee said: "Sir, we are prepared to do whatever it takes to make this thing a success. ... Back in January, when we were preparing for that election, we had to lead the way. We set up the coordination, we made the plan. We're really happy to see, during the preparation for this one, sir, they're doing everything."

On the training of Iraqi security forces, Master Sgt. Corine Lombardo from Scotia, N.Y., said to Bush: "I can tell you over the past 10 months, we've seen a tremendous increase in the capabilities and the confidences of our Iraqi security force partners. ... Over the next month, we anticipate seeing at least one-third of those Iraqi forces conducting independent operations."

Lombardo told the president that she was in New York City on Nov. 11, 2001, when Bush attended an event recognizing soldiers for their recovery and rescue efforts at Ground Zero. She said the troops began the fight against terrorism in the wake of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and were proud to continue it in Iraq.

"I thought you looked familiar," Bush said, and then joked: "I probably look familiar to you, too."

Paul Rieckhoff, director of the New York-based Operation Truth, an advocacy group for U.S. veterans of Iraq and
Afghanistan, denounced the event as a "carefully scripted publicity stunt." Five of the 10 U.S. troops involved were officers, he said.

"If he wants the real opinions of the troops, he can't do it in a nationally televised teleconference," Rieckhoff said. "He needs to be talking to the boots on the ground and that's not a bunch of captains."


Watching the military personel ansswer the scripted questions was just painful. This has got to be close to being the worst publicity Ops ever.


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press conference=propoganda=psyops


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"You've got tremendous support here at home," Bush said.

Less than 40 percent in an AP-Ipsos poll taken in October said they approved of the way Bush was handling Iraq. Just over half of the public now say the Iraq war was a mistake.


The author of this article took that out of context.
There may not be a ton of support for President Bush's plans in Iraq, but there is quite a bit of support for our troops.


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The author of this article took that out of context.
There may not be a ton of support for President Bush's plans in Iraq, but there is quite a bit of support for our troops.


With that I agree.


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More like briefed. I saw the clip and all they were doing is letting the solders know about the time delay and when to talk and not talk. The solders said that they had rehearsed what they were going to say, but no one told then what to say.


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Yes, because no one is ever told what to say in the military.


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Yes, because no one is ever told what to say in the military.


I was in the army for 7 years. They will try to tell you what to do, but there are enough good people in the army and I generally believe what they say. My Buddhist group corresponds with an army company in Iraq and we read letters from them all the time. If what I see in those letters is different from what I hear on the news, I will believe the solders over the news. What the solders said on that TV broadcast is consistent with what the solders are saying in the letters.


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so what if it was staged? this is the president of the US we're talking about........you think they're just gonna throw ppl in there at random to talk to him? its the same way when they show him disembarking Air Force One. and you see ppl out there waving flags and banners, and then he comes over and shakes a few hands....all those ppl have been screened extensivley and handpicked.

the last thing they need is some muckety muck soldier who wants to shake things up and be about controversy thats why they have to prepare them. if you saw the thing on CNN like i did, it just shows the lady telling them what the pres might say and that they should be relxed, she wasnt coaching thier answers....so i dont see it as a big deal like everyone is making out to be.


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so your saying you're ok with a president who refuses to be seen with anyone who does not agree with his policy 100%? i dont recall reagan, bush sr, or clinton having to resort to this erm

i guess some people will accept anything.

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so your saying you're ok with a president who refuses to be seen with anyone who does not agree with his policy 100%? i dont recall reagan, bush sr, or clinton having to resort to this erm

i guess some people will accept anything.


Well Bush knows how most people really feel about him and that the war is not going good, So he has people make it seem all good and supportive of him. He wants us to think its all good. Like a land of make believe. Although some people are to blind to see it and believe everything that comes out of Bush's lie whole.

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Well all leaders stage or rehearse events but like make it less obvious!


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he has trouble fielding real questions, him being a criminal and a dumbass, which is why in 150 years we've gone from anyone being able to have lunch with the president to the establishment of "free speech zones" and audience planting. the first sign of totalitarianism-progressive isolation, both mental and physical from by the leaders from the public.


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he has trouble fielding real questions, him being a criminal and a dumb-ass...


Before you start calling someone a dumb ass, read your statement and make sure it's written correctly. Otherwise, it makes you sound like a dumb ass. laughing


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hey, i'm running on no sleep


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hey, i'm running on no sleep


OK, I know what that feels like, I've been sick all week. big grin


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he has trouble fielding real questions, him being a criminal and a dumbass, which is why in 150 years we've gone from anyone being able to have lunch with the president to the establishment of "free speech zones" and audience planting. the first sign of totalitarianism-progressive isolation, both mental and physical from by the leaders from the public.


Thats true. I heard one president once opened the door to the white house and began chatting with any passerby who wanted to talk.


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and dont forget when the trooper stood up and said they're having to weld scrap metal to their trucks for armour. hate to get to much egg on their face again


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I think we need a president who has great knowledge and can go into deep thought. Someone intellectual for once.
WHY?
Well need a very smart person to solve all the problems getting created today.

IN CANADA, I remember when our last PM Jean chreatin strangled a reporter or a protester. Now thats a interesting leader. That was hilarious but i remember when our former PM Trudeau use to do those spinning ballet moves sometimes when he was happy and one time climbed over his gate to get to his house. Thats classic. Also how he dated famous people and had a wife that cheated on him by having a wild party with the rolling stones. He had created some serious problems in our country but leaders always get remembered for such things and is today is remember as a good Prime Minister by MOST people.


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I think we need a president who has great knowledge and can go into deep thought. Someone intellectual for once.
WHY?
Well need a very smart person to solve all the problems getting created today.

IN CANADA, I remember when our last PM Jean chreatin strangled a reporter or a protester. Now thats a interesting leader. That was hilarious but i remember when our former PM Trudeau use to do those spinning ballet moves sometimes when he was happy and one time climbed over his gate to get to his house. Thats classic. Also how he dated famous people and had a wife that cheated on him by having a wild party with the rolling stones. He had created some serious problems in our country but leaders always get remembered for such things and is today is remember as a good Prime Minister by MOST people.


It wouldn't matter how smart he/she was, the other side would find some way the say that the person was stupid. To be fair, I would like to see your diploma from Harvard.


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