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Do you worry that Gangs will take over your cities?
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Question Do you worry that Gangs will take over your cities?

Well? Do you feel the police in your area is doing their job? Or do we need to concentrate on getting these gang members programs that will help them improve socially and economically?

Not too long ago, I was surprise to hear that there are gangs in cities like London and Paris. How did this happen? I can understand the issue being a problem in 3rd world countries...but in advance (using the term losely) Nations?

What should be done to prevent Gang increase and violence?


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Re: Do you worry that Gangs will take over your cities?

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Originally posted by WindDancer
Well? Do you feel the police in your area is their job? Or do we need to concentrate on getting these gang members programs that will help them improve socially and economically?

Not too long ago, I was surprise to hear that there are gangs in cities like London and Paris. How did this happen? I can understand the issue being a problem in 3rd world countries...but in advance (using the the term losely) Nations?

What should be done to prevent Gang increase and violence?


London basically invented rioting - I am a Millwall fan

That aside We have occasional riots on "Estates" but these tend to stay on the Estates - A bit like the LA riots as I understand them.

Rioting is usually symptomatic of social disease or in the case of things Rodney King riots Injustice or in the case of the UK poll tax riots dissatisfaction with Government.

Society will never let or cities be ruled by gangs, at least not in the uK.


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Re: Re: Do you worry that Gangs will take over your cities?

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London basically invented rioting - I am a Millwall fan

w007 you all got banned from leicester.


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w007 you all got banned from leicester.


and Cardiff

I used to have "Sarf Lundun" home of Millwall FC as my location here


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Well? Do you feel the police in your area is doing their job? Or do we need to concentrate on getting these gang members programs that will help them improve socially and economically?

Not too long ago, I was surprise to hear that there are gangs in cities like London and Paris. How did this happen? I can understand the issue being a problem in 3rd world countries...but in advance (using the term losely) Nations?

What should be done to prevent Gang increase and violence?

Hell no. I live in Canada.


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London basically invented rioting - I am a Millwall fan

That aside We have occasional riots on "Estates" but these tend to stay on the Estates - A bit like the LA riots as I understand them.

Rioting is usually symptomatic of social disease or in the case of things Rodney King riots Injustice or in the case of the UK poll tax riots dissatisfaction with Government.

Society will never let or cities be ruled by gangs, at least not in the uK.

woah woah woah....the LA riots were in my backyard, so I know alil about them...nobody should have to go through that. THat was definetly a scary time.

and as far as if im afraid theyll take over my city. not really. my neighborhood consisted of 2 rival gangs. and they pretty much only went after each other. there are other pieces of sh1t gangs that are more tagging crews, but no i"m not all too scared about them taking over. Mostly because of the fact that my neighborhood was pretty close nit. There was a lot of community in there, so I wouldnt really be surprised if the mothers came out with shotguns just to protect "their turf"

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woah woah woah....the LA riots were in my backyard, so I know alil about them...nobody should have to go through that. THat was definetly a scary time.

and as far as if im afraid theyll take over my city. not really. my neighborhood consisted of 2 rival gangs. and they pretty much only went after each other. there are other pieces of sh1t gangs that are more tagging crews, but no i"m not all too scared about them taking over. Mostly because of the fact that my neighborhood was pretty close nit. There was a lot of community in there, so I wouldnt really be surprised if the mothers came out with shotguns just to protect "their turf"


We had riots in London before you had a nation

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/timeli...don_riots.shtml

but thats by the by

we have always had gang riots in London a notorious episode from the eigties

http://www.met.police.uk/history/broadwater_farm.htm

gang riots of a type you Americans can't comprehend, International european gang violence smile

http://users.skynet.be/terrorism/html/hooliganism.htm

but they can never take over - "the rule of law" would not allow it smile


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We had riots in London before you had a nation

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/timeli...don_riots.shtml

but thats by the by

we have always had gang riots in London a notorious episode from the eigties

http://www.met.police.uk/history/broadwater_farm.htm

gang riots of a type you Americans can't comprehend

http://users.skynet.be/terrorism/html/hooliganism.htm

but they can never take over - "the rule of law" would not allow it smile

throw it in my face my nations still a baby why dont ya

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Originally posted by Ron Jeremy
We had riots in London before you had a nation

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/timeli...don_riots.shtml

but thats by the by

we have always had gang riots in London a notorious episode from the eigties

http://www.met.police.uk/history/broadwater_farm.htm

gang riots of a type you Americans can't comprehend

http://users.skynet.be/terrorism/html/hooliganism.htm


you must be so proud.....


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you must be so proud.....


certainly not - it does show though that gang violence has been prevelant and serious for a long time in Europe and it never takes over.

Whats worse is we sell DVD's of it on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/stone-MILLWALL-...
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my town must be mafia runned, i dont know.
all i know is its nestled between newark and passaic,
which both get rough, and is crawling with gangs.

not one of them passes through my town.
coincidence?

as far as gangs, its a product of degeneration.
there are exceptions, but many gangmembers come
from functionless families. people expect a quick fix
but that cant happen. its a product of poverty eroding
families over many generations. how do you just cure that?

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Hell no. I live in Canada.


Time to pull your head out of the sand, it is becoming a problem in Canada also, we just seem to hide it better.


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my town must be mafia runned, i dont know.
all i know is its nestled between newark and passaic,
which both get rough, and is crawling with gangs.

not one of them passes through my town.
coincidence?

as far as gangs, its a product of degeneration.
there are exceptions, but many gangmembers come
from functionless families. people expect a quick fix
but that cant happen. its a product of poverty eroding
families over many generations. how do you just cure that?


In your opinion perhaps - not for one type of gang violence we have in the UK and Europe.

http://archives.tcm.ie/breakingnews...story146601.asp

Some violence is a result of moral panics and folk devils

https://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=13600

sometimes riots and rioters have valid reasons

http://www.plastic.com/article.html...=nested;nobar=1

never just one simple answer PVS you should realise that smile


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The KKK is practically in my backyard do they qualify as a gang if not I would like to nominate them to go on the gang list.

When I lived in Washington DC the nations capital there were alot of rough spots and "gangs" did they overrun the city? Only at night did they try and police in riot gear on most street corners between 8th and Ismile

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Its a problem in Toronto for sure, but hey at least we are super worried about instead of saying oh it happens in big cities.


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The KKK is practically in my backyard do they qualify as a gang if not I would like to nominate them to go on the gang list.

When I lived in Washington DC the nations capital there were alot of rough spots and "gangs" did they overrun the city? Only at night did they try and police in riot gear on most street corners between 8th and Ismile


of course they do, they are a big gang


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Re: Do you worry that Gangs will take over your cities?

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Originally posted by WindDancer
Well? Do you feel the police in your area is doing their job? Or do we need to concentrate on getting these gang members programs that will help them improve socially and economically?

Not too long ago, I was surprise to hear that there are gangs in cities like London and Paris. How did this happen? I can understand the issue being a problem in 3rd world countries...but in advance (using the term losely) Nations?

What should be done to prevent Gang increase and violence?


No really, i know theres no wat they gonna take over LA, Ny, or Stamford. Its too hard. And yea im in a gang by the way. When ever i go to the projects, i feel like im at home. ((PERU))

Peru 4 life homie!


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I think I prefer gangs to gangs of chavs. Gangs at least scare me.


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Well? Do you feel the police in your area is doing their job? Or do we need to concentrate on getting these gang members programs that will help them improve socially and economically?

Not too long ago, I was surprise to hear that there are gangs in cities like London and Paris. How did this happen? I can understand the issue being a problem in 3rd world countries...but in advance (using the term losely) Nations?

What should be done to prevent Gang increase and violence?


London been had gangs. Like Yardies and Triads

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England's always had gangs.


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