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Shakyamunison
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There seems to be two ways to win an argument.

There seems to be two ways to win an argument.
1. Give a solid convincing argument supported my facts.
2. Insult and bash your opponent at every turn until he/she gives up in disgust.

What do you think about this?


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I think your wrong, the reason is that even though you are entitled to your opinion I could care less about it..........

Now I need you to pay close attention to what I am saying because you are just not understanding what I am saying........do you understand where I am coming from now...........that's fair right...

lol absolutely I agree Shaky yes bunny

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Originally posted by soleran30
I think your wrong, the reason is that even though you are entitled to your opinion I could care less about it..........

Now I need you to pay close attention to what I am saying because you are just not understanding what I am saying........do you understand where I am coming from now...........that's fair right...

lol absolutely I agree Shaky yes bunny


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Good job: got me going there for just a moment. That is my point and you did a great job in illustrating it. Thanks.


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Re: There seems to be two ways to win an argument.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There seems to be two ways to win an argument.
1. Give a solid convincing argument supported my facts.
2. Insult and bash your opponent at every turn until he/she gives up in disgust.

What do you think about this?


WRONG!!!! number two i mean


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Re: Re: There seems to be two ways to win an argument.

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Originally posted by JacopeX
WRONG!!!! number two i mean


Well, I'm wrong? eek!

I learned this here on this forum. roll eyes (sarcastic)

I agree it is wrong, but why do people do it again and again? (not every one just a few)


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Re: Re: Re: There seems to be two ways to win an argument.

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Well, I'm wrong? eek!

I learned this here on this forum. roll eyes (sarcastic)

I agree it is wrong, but why do people do it again and again?


Its simple really, my opinion is a higher quality than yours........

Or the classic........"man that was stupid, sorry no offense to you"

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Arguments shouldn't be about who's winning and who is losing. Is about have a discussion and learning other people opinions.


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You forgot about the 3rd option. Keep spewing the same rhetoric until everyone is bored and ignores the thread, then claim victory.


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Originally posted by WindDancer
Arguments shouldn't be about who's winning and who is losing. Is about have a discussion and learning other people opinions.


So, the winning and loosing thing is what is behind this pore behavior. That is a really good analysis. What do you recommend if someone finds himself or herself on the battered end of this experience?


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quote:
Originally posted by "God"
There seems to be two ways to win an argument.
1. Give a solid convincing argument supported my facts.
2. Insult and bash your opponent at every turn until he/she gives up in disgust.
What do you think about this?


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Originally posted by KharmaDog
You forgot about the 3rd option. Keep spewing the same rhetoric until everyone is bored and ignores the thread, then claim victory.


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Originally posted by "God"
So, the winning and loosing thing is what is behind this pore behavior. That is a really good analysis. What do you recommend if someone finds himself or herself on the battered end of this experience?



Gosh..I feel like I've just entered a battered women's shelter/support group...laughing laughing

Shaky..you need to send a private message to Ush, PVS, Captain Fantastic, Lana, Tpt, and Adam Poe. Maybe you can also ask a Mod to rename this thread to..

"The official KMC members who got their arguments owned in threads support group..."

laughing laughing

Ah well..carry on gentlemen..its always good to mix misery with company. laughing out loud


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There seems to be two ways to win an argument.
1. Give a solid convincing argument supported my facts.
2. Insult and bash your opponent at every turn until he/she gives up in disgust.

What do you think about this?

I'd be interested in knowing at whom this is directed.
quote: (post)
Originally posted by WindDancer
Arguments shouldn't be about who's winning and who is losing. Is about have a discussion and learning other people opinions.

Heh. I swear, he's the only one on KMC with a semblance of sense.


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Example scenario of Support Group meeting

Support Groupee Number 1: I just got insulted by some dude in another thread..claimed that I didn't know how to spell "collage."

Support Groupee Number 2: And what did he do after he made fun of the mispelling..

Support Groupee Number 1: He posted..He posted...

Support Groupee Number 3: Go on..show us..don't be afraid...

Support Groupee Number 1: this...laughing laughing

All Group Members: GAhhhhh!!! KEEP IT AWAY..IT BURNS!!!!!!!

Fin...

laughing out loud


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Originally posted by whobdamandog
Gosh..I feel like I've just entered a battered women's shelter/support group...laughing laughing

Shaky..you need to send a private message to Ush, PVS, Captain Fantastic, Lana, Tpt, and Adam Poe. Maybe you can also ask a Mod to rename this thread to..

"The official KMC members who got their points owned in threads by whob support group..."

laughing laughing

Ah well..carry on gentlemen..its always good to mix misery with company. laughing out loud


Are you an attention whore? Or do you actually think that you are not only the supreme master of all debates on KMC, but that we will all be amused by your tiresome jests merely because you have signalled them as funny by posting laughing smilies?

Claiming that you have "owned" someone does not make it so, as has been shown many times when members here have embarrassed you as you claimed to have "owned" them.

As for being owned, this point has been covered ad nauseum. Your claims of "owning" someone usually is proceeded by that person proving you to be wrong or pointing out a flaw in your argument or a deception that you have tried to sneak under the radar to prove your point. This is usually followed by you resorting to childish name calling.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by whobdamandog
Example scenario of Support Group meeting

Support Groupee Number 1: I just got insulted by some dude in another thread..claimed that I didn't know how to spell "collage."

Support Groupee Number 2: And what did he do after he made fun of the mispelling..

Support Groupee Number 1: He posted..He posted...

Support Groupee Number 3: Go on..show us..don't be afraid...

Support Groupee Number 1: this...laughing laughing

All Group Members: GAhhhhh!!! KEEP IT AWAY..IT BURNS!!!!!!!

Fin...

laughing out loud

Oh, hush, you worthless troll. I think Shakyamunison has a point, but I'd be interested in hearing her elaborate on it.


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Re: Re: There seems to be two ways to win an argument.

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Originally posted by JacopeX
WRONG!!!! number two i mean


hes right. your just ignorant


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by WindDancer
Arguments shouldn't be about who's winning and who is losing. Is about have a discussion and learning other people opinions.



Yes, very true. Anyone who resorts to insults, bashing, sarcasm, disrespect, rudeness or hostility to try and "win" an argument is doing it for the wrong reasons.

Ironically, by doing these things you're more or less admitting that your argument isn't worth hearing and that you don't really know how to argue in a sound manner.


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Originally posted by FeceMan
Oh, hush, you worthless troll. I think Shakyamunison has a point, but I'd be interested in hearing her elaborate on it.


Well..a man who takes pride in naming himself after human defication..is calling me worthless..laughing

Call me crazy..but by calling me a name..haven't you just given an example of the typical type of "attitude" that causes what you deem to be "trolling?"

Can you say hypocritical boys and girls? yes

Perhaps if people don't want to be offended..they should stop trying to offend others..

Or in other words Fece/Shaky/Backfire/everyone else..Do unto others..as you would have them do unto you.

Simple "Christian" philosophy to understand. And also a simple Human one.

If you don't understand this basic life philosophy..then don't go crying about your feelings being hurt..after you've acted in a way that could be deemed as "insulting" to someone else.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by WindDancer
Arguments shouldn't be about who's winning and who is losing. Is about have a discussion and learning other people opinions.


You cannot say 'Discuss' without pronouncing 'diss' and 'cuss' stick out tongue


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by whobdamandog
Well..a man who takes pride in naming himself after human defication..is calling me worthless..laughing

Call me crazy..but by calling me a name..haven't you just given an example of the typical type of "attitude" that causes what you deem to be "trolling?"

Perhaps if people don't want to be offended..they should stop trying to offend others..

Or in other words Fece..Do unto others..as you would have then do unto you.

Simple "Christian" philosophy to understand.

Surely my name is indicative of...something!

There's a difference between unprovoked name-calling and calling you a troll...which you are being. You are making fun of some of the posters--an obvious troll attempt--and thus should be called on it. Which I have done.

The philosophy of "do unto others" does not mean to tolerate all things, your posting being in that category.


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Originally posted by whobdamandog
Gosh..I feel like I've just entered a battered women's shelter/support group...laughing laughing

Shaky..you need to send a private message to Ush, PVS, Captain Fantastic, Lana, Tpt, and Adam Poe. Maybe you can also ask a Mod to rename this thread to..

"The official KMC members who got their arguments owned in threads support group..."

laughing laughing

Ah well..carry on gentlemen..its always good to mix misery with company. laughing out loud


It's kind of hard to "own" someone, or their argument...when you never respond to my posts. You haven't responded to any of my posts since I called you out on lying and making things up to support your own arguments in the intelligent design thread.

Once again, you saying you win...means about as much as the lies you post.

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