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So much for encouraging violence.

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http://www.gamerevolution.com/oldsi...ce/violence.htm

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Videogames stop crimes now?

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Videogames stop crimes now?

They do apparently.

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Probably has nothing to do with video games.

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Probably has nothing to do with video games.

I think it'S more about people claiming that Video Games are the root of violence nowadays, which they are not.

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Mar 5th, 2006 01:26 PM

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Hahaha.

Brass Eye graphs.

I have a graph I could show you of the world's population steadily rising since my birth.

I'm just that productive.

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Hahaha.

Brass Eye graphs.

Agreed

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Mar 5th, 2006 03:53 PM

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I think (know, in fact) the point is that videogames are supposed to be increasing violence (according to the raging moron segment of the population), but this is evidence that they aren't.

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I think (know, in fact) the point is that videogames are supposed to be increasing violence (according to the raging moron segment of the population), but this is evidence that they aren't.

I don't think it's very valid.

It's like saying my getting older is reducing crime. As an old lady near me purchases more antique teapots, crime goes down.

Too many variables not considered.

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Anyone who have studied statistics know that doesn�t necessarily mean that video game had some influence on stoping the crimes. Any other event that happened between 1993, and 2003 might have influenced it. That graphic is just an statistical illusion(and a very bad one), you can�t conclude anything by it.

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Anyone who have studied statistics know that doesn�t necessarily mean that video game had some influence on stoping the crimes. Any other event that happened between 1993, and 2003 might have influenced it. That graphic is just an statistical illusion, you can�t conclude anything by it.

Yeah, although I think the point is that it doesn't increase them.

Even then, though, your post still applies.

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Yeah, although I think the point is that it doesn't increase them.

Even then, though, your post still applies.

Yup. Thats another thing that needs to be remembered, we can�t conclude that it increase them either.

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I don't think it's very valid.

It's like saying my getting older is reducing crime. As an old lady near me purchases more antique teapots, crime goes down.

Too many variables not considered.

I don't think so; it's like saying that your getting older isn't causing crime. I don't think anybody's seriously arguing that video games reduce crime, just that if you want to say they cause crime, you'll have to deal with the fact that when video games became popular, crime did not, in fact, increase.

Of course, it could be that video games are are increasing crime rates, but other factors are simultaniously reducing them so much that the game-related increase is cancelled out. As you say, there are other variables.

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Hahaha.

Brass Eye graphs.

I have a graph I could show you of the world's population steadily rising since my birth.

I'm just that productive.

Hi-larious.

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I don't think it's very valid.

It's like saying my getting older is reducing crime. As an old lady near me purchases more antique teapots, crime goes down.

Too many variables not considered.

LOL to much

since global warming I have noticed a decreasing trend in pirates lol

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I don't think so; it's like saying that your getting older isn't causing crime. I don't think anybody's seriously arguing that video games reduce crime, just that if you want to say they cause crime, you'll have to deal with the fact that when video games became popular, crime did not, in fact, increase.

Of course, it could be that video games are are increasing crime rates, but other factors are simultaniously reducing them so much that the game-related increase is cancelled out. As you say, there are other variables.

I think it is seriously arguing that they don't increase crime on the back of this graph. As you say, the evidence here isn't enough for that.

If I produced a graph showing that my getting older didn't cause crime, using the same variables as here, it would have a similar result.

To me, it's just one of those examples of trying to use figures to lend credibility, and also to obscure other factors.

Although I'm sure we all know this already.

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Thats actually more credible than you would intially think.
The graph itself is actually from the Bureau of Justice... Not to say anything about Video Games reducing crimes. The statistics are actually right though...
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/viort.htm

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When I use to get pissed off with clerks (banks, shops, cold callers...) messing me around I just use to wish death apon them... Now I can visualise it, all thanks to video games...

Pacifically "Postal 2 running with scissors" ...... Anyone wanting to know how wrong video games can get should play that...

For a more accurate time line rather then those other biased hacked graphs....

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.... Oh and http://imokgame.com/ Worthy of a look in... They took up Mr. Thompson up on his offer to create a pc game... Fun for half an hour!!!

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yeah, why kill people when you can play VIDEO GAMES big grin

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Video game is not the cause, there is really stupid things in video games, but it is equally stupid or worst to generalize it.

Worship Satan by Pickachu, that was great !!!

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