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Nanotechnology and Artifical Intelligence ?
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Nanotechnology and Artifical Intelligence ?

Both things (while incredibly useful ) should be limited at best or destroyed at worse (In my own opinion of course).

The Nano tech because it could cause a 'grey blob' situation , wherein the only possible solution would be to manually cause a Electromagnetic Pulse to knock it out . Not taking into account the ungodly amount of damage it could cause .

The artificial intelligence for Terminator 2 stick out tongue

Any thoughts ?


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i think artificial intelligence, assuming its actually achieved, would be the destruction of life as we know it

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I like both....humans suck anyways, lets go for robots and very small robots instead.


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i think artificial intelligence, assuming its actually achieved, would be the destruction of life as we know it


It all matters if the AI gains sentience and then realises it's potential , if so then we humans have a serious problem. I doubt that we'll be dealing with 'Johnny Five' more like 'Johnny the lap-dog of the military in control of WMDs'


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It all matters if the AI gains sentience and then realises it's potential , if so then we humans have a serious problem. I doubt that we'll be dealing with 'Johnny Five' more like 'Johnny the lap-dog of the military in control of WMDs'


I think if that happens all humans should be sterilized and the problem's done with within 100 years.


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its just that AI would operate on pure logic, right? and the logical conclusion, assuming it could procreate, would be that mankind is irrational illogical and thus a constant threat....not to mention having no purpose for being. but then again it may come to the conclusion that it also has no purpose for being and just switch off.

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its just that AI would operate on pure logic, right? and the logical conclusion, assuming it could procreate, would be that mankind is irrational illogical and thus a constant threat....not to mention having no purpose for being. but then again it may come to the conclusion that it also has no purpose for being and just switch off.


Or, we could make it so that they adore us...cause...well..we build them, why not build that in?


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Or, we could make it so that they adore us...cause...well..we build them, why not build that in?


people often wish they could erase their love in a doomed relationship. what of a being which had the ability to do that in under a nanosecond?

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people often wish they could erase their love in a doomed relationship. what of a being which had the ability to do that in under a nanosecond?


What about a being that is absolutely unable to do so, cause we made it that way?


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What about a being that is absolutely unable to do so, cause we made it that way?


i cant help but suspect that an AI would have the ability to modify its own programming to adapt, grow, and improve itself. or it wouldnt very much be intelligent, would it?

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I'm just glad my name isn't John Connor


Aren't we all...


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i cant help but suspect that an AI would have the ability to modify its own programming to adapt, grow, and improve itself. or it wouldnt very much be intelligent, would it?


You could put in safety measures.


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One of many interesting sites on the possible future of artificial intelligence: www.singinst.org

That aside, one ought to keep the following in mind: intelligence is not the same as consciousness or motivation. While scifi has long loved to depict AI as eventually, logically and inevitably antihuman, this in actual fact remains to be seen. Personally, I don't necessarily buy that Hello-AI-Goodbye-Humanity schpiel.


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eek!

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Ohh one of my all time favorites was AI...It made me cry, not that you all care. All the boy wanted was his mommy to love him.........................

If Nano tech were so intelligent, then they would learn and adapt to the point that humans would be considered inferior and useless.......I suppose they could be used in some instances, but I feel it is something NOT to fool around with....It could even start a "They are different then us", and conspiracies could come from it.......*Hmm watches too many Sci-Fi movies*

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great...great!


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Re: Nanotechnology and Artifical Intelligence ?

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Originally posted by grey fox
Both things (while incredibly useful ) should be limited at best or destroyed at worse (In my own opinion of course).

The Nano tech because it could cause a 'grey blob' situation , wherein the only possible solution would be to manually cause a Electromagnetic Pulse to knock it out . Not taking into account the ungodly amount of damage it could cause .

The artificial intelligence for Terminator 2 stick out tongue

Any thoughts ?


I am 100% for both. The potential is certainly there, where as it is only a lot of dubious scare mongering "ifs" that suggest it should be limited or that it is a threat to life as we know it.

It just is very unlikely to work the way it does in sci-fi. And even if it did - if it was sentient it deserves to be mankind's equal. The idea that machines are inherently destined to hate us... just no.


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Machines are nothing but our work...they kill you if you make a mistake, just like getting fired.


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Machines are nothing but our work...they kill you if you make a mistake, just like getting fired.


Well strangely enough I can't remember the last time my coffee maker or computer killed me because I spelt a word wrong or added to many beans.

And of course the most illogical thing about that statement is... there is no proof of such. A man gets killed because he sticks his arms in a wheat thresher - human stupidity, not machine malice.


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