aside from that, how is anyone supposed to take this guy seriously? I can understand criticism of the U.S., but this guy is not speaking in a manner of which would be considered appropriate from a world leader. and he wants a seat on the U.N. Security Council??
I suppose our president is no better; he's always talking about "evil" nations and such, but I think that Chavez and Ahmadinejad are just saying these things to sort of put the same spin on things as we have. We called their counties evil and corrupt? so they call ours evil and corrupt...which calls into question...are either really AS corrupt as the other says? I'm not knowledgeable enough about either the U.S. government or the Iranian (or Venezuelan) gov't to know for sure. All I know is that their accusations sound ridiculous and exaggerated to me...so does that mean our criticisms of other countries might be ridiculous and exaggerated as well?
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General Assembly president Sheikha Haya Rashed Al Khalifa was laughing and covering her mouth as to not make it noticeable as Chavez went on with his spiel. She wasn't the only one holding back laughter either, from what I hear.
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Not only is that anyone will take him seriously, but no one will agree with him. He is trying to ally with many countries in South America to go against the US but of course, we laughed and let him cry for it.
Dissatisfied is one thing. Going on a tangent about how the leader of that country is the devil? That's a bit extreme. I can agree with someone who dislikes our policies, but when you decend into equating Bush with Satan I tend to ignore you. I have a feeling that a lot of people do the same thing.
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It is only a shame that the person who has the nerve to stand up and say it is less then, well, authoritative. Sadly I heard someone liken him to a sober Boris Yeltsin (for comedy purposes.)
Yes, I mean I equate Bush with a fool, and aggressive one, but there is no way he is devil material.
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It's far different from Bush's little "Axis of Evil" crap. Chavez straight-up called him "El Diablo", and in Spanish that's not something you joke around with. It's quite an accusation.
I more or less agree with Kinneary; it was just an angry rant.
Perhaps, but then there are parts of Europe where Hitler and things associated with him and the Axis aren't joking matters either, in fact are near taboo so bad the memories are.
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Of course it's not! It's exactly the same. Chavez obviously chose his rhetoric to mirror that of the Bush Administration's. Labelling whole nations as part of an 'Axis of Evil' - by a sitting president - is not a light-hearted 'little' joke either!
Honestly, how can you not see this?
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Besides calling Bush "The Devil", Chavez also said Bush was an "alcoholic and a sick man", not sure what metaphor he was implying there. His speech was nothing more than an angry emotional rant and world leaders should not go on those.
Oh, if anyone cares, every time you purchase gas from a CITGO gas station you are putting your money directly in Venezuela via Petroleos de Venezuela (who owns CITGO) and they in turn finance Hugo Chavez.
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He (Chavez) is an idiot. Now, while I admit that Bush's intelligence is something that needs to be questioned, a world leader should never stand up and call someone a devil. For the record, I think Bush is an idiot also.
I'm glad to see Dems and Reps can come together about something.
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"A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in... And how many want out."
There are probably several hundred Bush speeches I could quote and ask the same question regarding him. That being said I take Hugo Chavez about as seriously as Barney the dinosaur. However the apparently he believes the U.S. tried to oust him in a coup which is somewhat mitigating.
"If there's any criticism of President Bush, it should be restricted to Americans"
Oh please, if Pat Robertson can go on TV and call for Chavez to be assassinated then I can be as critical of Bush as I like.
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