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What's the difference between a conquerer and a mass murderer ?

Really, is there any difference ?


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A conquerer has a goal, such as taking over a certain area. A mass murderer just wants to kill as many people has he/she can.


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Really, is there any difference ?


The differance is only in perception.


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Historical interpretation? Theoretically it is possible to conquer something without killing anyone.


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Small scale. Such as Sudetenland.

But if we are talking about a conquerer, assuming a competent one, it is not very probable that such would ever happen.
All great conquerers have killed a vast amount of people.

People generally tend to fight back.


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A mass murderer just kills a mass amount of people, while a conquerer takes over a large amount of space. A conquerer doesn't need to kill everyone, and if he does, he's doing it for a reason.


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Small scale. Such as Sudetenland.

But if we are talking about a conquerer, assuming a competent one, it is not very probable that such would ever happen.
All great conquerers have killed a vast amount of people.

People generally tend to fight back.


So instead, the distinction is intention?


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A mass murderer just kills a mass amount of people, while a conquerer takes over a large amount of space. A conquerer doesn't need to kill everyone, and if he does, he's doing it for a reason.


Wait? conquerer kills for a reason, and mass murder kills for fun? That does't really sound right.

Can you give examples.

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So instead, the distinction is intention?


Im not saying im right, im just saying from historical perspective (that I am familiar with) there isn't a great distinction.

For a conquerer to actually conquer something, he will encounter countless oppositions, life threats, from external as well as internal subjects...etc.

Invading, if you will, is hardly no kill job. Maybe somewhere it is, but at some point resistance is bound to happen, no?


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Conquerors usually do not directly kill. One might see that as a difference. Though that is pedantic. In the general understand you could say a conqueror is usually a mass murderer.


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People generally tend to fight back.


A rather annoying and unfortunate habit......

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A Conquerer isn't one person.

A Mass Murderer Is.

Technically a Conquerer isn't killing people, he's getting others to do it.

I see a Difference.


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Admittedly, mass murderers are murderers with no true intention, but conquerers on the other hand are mass murderers WITH true intention. They kill large amounts of people to gain a large amount of land or some other resource. Quite simply conquerers are GREEDY mass murderers but murderers all the same.


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Wait? conquerer kills for a reason, and mass murder kills for fun? That does't really sound right.

Can you give examples.


I see what he is saying. Conquerors might not kill for a good reason, but a reason nonetheless. However, that isn't really even relevant. A conqueror might have "fun" taking over a large amount of space. A mass murderer on the other hand, might kill someone without the desire to build an empire. All conquerors are mass murderers, but not all mass murderers are conquerors.

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A Conquer tries to seeze control of a populace, a Mass murderer tries to kill a populace.


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Conquerers are the good guys.

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Re: What's the difference between a conquerer and a mass murderer ?

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Really, is there any difference ?


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Re: What's the difference between a conquerer and a mass murderer ?

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Really, is there any difference ?


Yes.

AlexanderTheGreat conquered huge areas but largely left the populations intact.


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Re: What's the difference between a conquerer and a mass murderer ?

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Really, is there any difference ?


Husein/Amin very disgraceful rulers. The Green River Killer/Ted Bundy/Dahmer very evil ppl. Not much of a difference.


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A conquerer has a goal, such as taking over a certain area. A mass murderer just wants to kill as many people has he/she can.


Who are you to say all Mass Murderers just 'kill people'? Maybe they have goals as well.


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