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Bush gets funding passed without timetable...(wTfPwN'z Dems.)

Congress reluctantly approves billions for war
Democrats, conceding to Bush, don't insist on troop withdrawal timetable

WASHINGTON - Bowing to President Bush, the Democratic-controlled House and Senate reluctantly approved fresh billions for the Iraq war on Thursday, minus the troop withdrawal timeline that drew his earlier veto.



(Full article) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18841182/




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The democrats letting people step all over them?! unheard of.


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This will not end well.


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Congress reluctantly approves billions for war
Democrats, conceding to Bush, don't insist on troop withdrawal timetable

WASHINGTON - Bowing to President Bush, the Democratic-controlled House and Senate reluctantly approved fresh billions for the Iraq war on Thursday, minus the troop withdrawal timeline that drew his earlier veto.



(Full article) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18841182/




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Hooray, your war is a multibillion dollar drain on your economy and your soldiers will remain in Iraq indefinitely? Let's party like it's 1999? confused


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Hooray, your war is a multibillion dollar drain on your economy and your soldiers will remain in Iraq indefinitely? confused



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For what exactly is sithsaber408 celebrating this?


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I don't quite understand for what sithsaber408 is celebrating this.
Well despite the fact that it's likely the equivalent to the GDP of whole nations is being spent on this war, and thousands of people on both sides are dying, the Democrats had to make a concession to President Bush so that the current troops over in Iraq (indefinitely) aren't underfunded and therefore more likely to die. So it's sexy party time.


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For what exactly is sithsaber408 celebrating this?


I was being provacative. stick out tongue

I guess the real question is: Wasn't Bush supposed to be a lame duck president?

Weren't the elections of '06 somehow the "voice of the nation" that the war must end and that Dems were going to hand bush his butt?

Weren't they going to stick it to Bush?



They caved, none of that's happening?


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I guess the real question is: Wasn't Bush supposed to be a lame duck president?

Weren't the elections of '06 somehow the "voice of the nation" that the war must end and that Dems were going to hand bush his butt?

Weren't they going to stick it to Bush?



They caved, none of that's happening?


Discuss.


The spineless idiots however well intentioned they may be.


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Hooray, your war is a multibillion dollar drain on your economy and your soldiers will remain in Iraq indefinitely? Let's party like it's 1999? confused
As much as I support the troops, I have to agree here. reluctantly, but done. sad


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This is terribly sad.

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Yeah? So are you when you cry.


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They always say to Dems "you don't support the troops" if they vote against things like this and most people who do not know the issues agree with no basis.

It's a lose-lose here. This is just stupid.

Anyone catch that "If the Iraqi government ask us to leave, we will," quote by Bush? This is going to end really ****ed up.


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Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Well despite the fact that it's likely the equivalent to the GDP of whole nations is being spent on this war, and thousands of people on both sides are dying, the Democrats had to make a concession to President Bush so that the current troops over in Iraq (indefinitely) aren't underfunded and therefore more likely to die. So it's sexy party time.

............................Oh. Well uh...care to dance?
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I was being provacative. stick out tongue

I guess the real question is: Wasn't Bush supposed to be a lame duck president?

Weren't the elections of '06 somehow the "voice of the nation" that the war must end and that Dems were going to hand bush his butt?

Weren't they going to stick it to Bush?

They caved, none of that's happening?

Discuss. Does it ever?

Honestly sithsaber408, what was the Congress supposed to do? Deny the unfortunate troops money? I don't see how this is caving in. Believe it or not, democrats care for the welfare of our troops too. Noone wants to see them underfunded while they are over there.


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Honestly sithsaber408, what was the Congress supposed to do? Deny the unfortunate troops money? I don't see how this is caving in. Believe it or not, democrats care for the welfare of our troops too. Noone wants to see them underfunded while they are over there.


Exactly.

This was a no win situation. You can't put you foot down on a deadline because Bush has said he will veto anything with a deadline (up to this point) but you can't let the troops go without resources.

And throwing Al Queda back in this in just some crazy crooked shit because they were not there at first to begin with!

F'n intelligence being skewed. Yeah, I trust this administration rolling on floor laughing


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Re: Bush gets funding passed without timetable...(wTfPwN'z Dems.)

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Congress reluctantly approves billions for war
Democrats, conceding to Bush, don't insist on troop withdrawal timetable

WASHINGTON - Bowing to President Bush, the Democratic-controlled House and Senate reluctantly approved fresh billions for the Iraq war on Thursday, minus the troop withdrawal timeline that drew his earlier veto.



(Full article) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18841182/




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And you're actually ignorant enough to assume that Bush and the democrats don't serve the same people? At this point in time you actually want to believe there is anything Bush could do to promote his own agenda? You are actually stupid enough to assume that it's all come down to the talking point of funding "our troops"? Not one damn thing Bush did is going to make the democrats roll over. Nothing. Is there a more apparent, more simple term I should use? This issue shold illustrate the simple minded nature of all politics, not the the bullshit you hold to be truth. You're likely the same kind of person who says Ron Paul is an idiot and Rudy is the one speaking truth to power. By all means, be the first lemming off the cliff.

Keep posting a photoshopped picture of Bush, because it's all you have left of this supposed bible thumper, lame duck president. Oh, there's no real picture of Bush being the "stand up" president you hold him out to be, so I guess you'll have to keep relying on that bullshit, photoshopped picture to illuminate the
"integrity" of the man. Idiot. By posting a fake picture over and over again, all you do is strengthen the case for the people who despise your ideology, and his. Could there be a better metaphore? I doubt it. Pick up a book. The very bible-thumping members of his own administration, the David Kuos if you will, who have served him and written extensively on the punch line aspect that you people have become, are telling you...point blank...that you've been lied to, and you still don't get it. You've been used! Wake the **** UP! Keep beating the drums of a rally cry that no longer applies to you.

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I mostly agree King, but what are citizens supposed to do?

Just wondering what you think.


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I mostly agree King, but what are citizens supposed to do?

Just wondering what you think.


Turn off their televisions and put down the bag of fritos. And pick up a news paper or act interested in the least.

It's a cop out to say that the vast majority of consumer education comes from government programs. The citizen him or herself should hold some responsability in educating themselves.

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Agreed but I think this has to deal with the miseducation of Americans and the lies we are told about history.

For example, if you look in a high school history textbook ( I have seen this in college also) every American (president are the worst) are looked up like some pseudo god who knows all and has no flaws.

I am still shocked how many people do not see how eerily similar this is to those Latin American voyages in the early 20th century with Wilson (example: US Marines invade Haiti in 1915 and forced Haitian legislature to select the "preferred" candidate; of course this happened in other places also, including the 1914 invasion of Mexico during its' civil war) but Wilson is almost never given real criticism, or I have seen it IGNORED ALTOGETHER.

We are not taught to think critically - "Just accept what the government does because it is in your best interest."

It is a concern but I'm not sure how to get the majority to understand this.


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man i am pulling for bush from now on. Never really gave the guy a chance, always saw through his facade more so than any other president, but heres hopin he bombs iran before his term is over.


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