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Question What is your Duality Argument?

What is your duality argument?

I tried to write a list of them, having the category and sub-category.

Duality, (I know I speak the obvious), is the argument of two opposites, opposing sides, seems to always be two.

I think we all have an inherent desire for duality, as we were born out of one (man and woman), it's in our DNA, which is, you guessed it..a double helix (two opposing sides of protein strand).

Here we go, and again, add on but try to include a category.


1. Economics
Communist vs Capitalist
Citizen vs slave
rich vs poor
wealthy vs rich
poor vs impoverished

(poor doesn't mean the lack of "means", many religious people are poor by choice, b/c of how they view the rich, the poor may not carry debt or extra income, impoverished may have means but it never stays...the wealthy can create riches, the rich just have abundance, the rich only know one way to earn abundance, the wealthy can point the value in the unforeseen)


2. Gender
Male vs Female (even if someone is gay, they usually chose one side)


3. Politics
right vs left



4. Class
(even though most countries have two classes, some do think our middle class is a transition state to either becoming wealthy/rich or poor/impoverished).



5. Religion
Protestant vs Catholic
Muslim vs the non-Muslims (infidels according to them)


6. Sports
Usually two opposing teams


7. Propaganda vs realism (not sure which category that would go in)


8. DNA strand
double helix: the helix on the left vs the helix on the right

9. civil war
north vs south


I think it's natural for us to have this because it's part of our DNA, so although a person can have more then one category of arguments, some end up focusing on one, and yes, that includes race, as this is why some people who are racist feel it's natural, it's not the race opposition that is natural as much as it the need to be in opposition to something opposite. Let's take the Southern Bell vs South Afrikan farmers (or the Amish). Both maintain their racial heritage, but each still has a duality argument...guess what it is? Well, the southern bell sees the skin color as their god, and the Amish see work as a sacrifice to their god, so people can be in the same "race" and will naturally have a duality argument, this argument may never play out in words, it may play out in action. This doesn't justify all racism, but it does allow us to understand why some are very hard core, and maybe they find that their children sway one way or the other, probably maintaining their own duality argument that is totally unrelated to their parents, it happens, and I suspect it's in our core DNA that causes us to seek out this (1-9) duality. I've visited the Amish and watched them at work, they are very hard workers and industrious, this is because work is an offering to their God, so you can see how one group can have two sides (secular vs religious) or (ruling others vs self rule). I am not putting down southern bells or exalting the Amish, it's just an example to state a duality argument, nothing more, so please don't complicate it....(and please do not attack the Amish out of jealousy PLEASE).

Really looking forward to seeing what you think are new duality arguments that I couldn't think of...you can include your own if you want to disclose which one as your duality argument that has always been an issue or a passion in your life.


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The human perspective
Good VS Evil
Indifference VS indecession


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Originally posted by ragesRemorse
The human perspective
Good VS Evil
Indifference VS indecession



HOW COULD I MISS GOOD VS EVIL, that's classic in most dramas!!


Religion
heaven vs hell (only two options)


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HOW COULD I MISS GOOD VS EVIL, that's classic in most dramas!!


Religion
heaven vs hell (only two options)


I was actually trying to catagorize good vs evil under the human perspective, but i guess it works just as well as a stand alone idea.


also i think you think to much, do people ever tell you that wink


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Reality VS imgination

I dont know if thats an example of duality rather than a contrast of opposites


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I was actually trying to catagorize good vs evil under the human perspective, but i guess it works just as well as a stand alone idea.


also i think you think to much, do people ever tell you that wink


Yeah, I knew you wanted it under Human Perspective, I would have added it on to the major list but the timer to edit ran out.

Oh, I wish I thought too much!


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Human beings cannot survive on extremes, we need a balanced middle ground that incorporates idea's from both forces of the universe (Positive & Negative). Finding that balance is one of the purposes of life in my opinion.

My favorite is the Super Ego Vs The Id.


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Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Human beings cannot survive on extremes, we need a balanced middle ground that incorporates idea's from both forces of the universe (Positive & Negative). Finding that balance is one of the purposes of life in my opinion.


Balance is like earth with respect to heaven and hell. We all know how to be practical, but when it comes to our "inner" core issues, we are decidedly one or the other, isn't that what we make ourselves chose in this world? Either male or female...city or country....right or left (politics)...we can all play politically correct, but that's ignoring the elephant in the room. We force people to chose one or the other, we force it on each other.

Ego vs Id (that's a good one)

ego = your defense to the outside world imposing on you
id = identity, your own personal identity


"A popular interpretation of the id is not that it is "convincing" the mind to ignore social norms, but rather in itself just does not take social norms into account when 'thinking' or 'acting'."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ego


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Waffles vs. Pancakes.

I can never decide what to have for breakfast.


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Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
Balance is like earth with respect to heaven and hell. We all know how to be practicle, but when it comes to our "inner" core issues, we are decidely one or the other, isn't that what we make ourselves choice in this world? Either male or female...city or country....right or left (politics)...we can all play politically correct, but that's igoring the elephant in the room.


That's really flawed reasoning, one extreme is not better then the other. The earth it's self is at a middle ground in the universe, Not too close the Sun and Not to far away the Sun. Life cannot thrive on extreme's, we need middle ground.


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Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
That's really flawed reasoning, one extreme is not better then the other. The earth it's self is at a middle ground in the universe, Not too close the Sun and Not to far away the Sun. Life cannot thrive on extreme's, we need middle ground.



but you act as if ignoring the DNA aspect of our duality is somehow going to make everything to away, "everything in moderation" yes, even religious zealots say that, and yes, they are on one side of the argument when it comes to secular vs religious...there is nothing wrong with being honest with ourselves about this, really, it doesn't change things by hiding what we think about things. Democrats vs Republican (I doubt we will have a third party system anytime soon).

Politics
Democrats vs Republican

Witchcraft
the circle (female) vs the dot (male)

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be creative.


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Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Reality VS imgination

I dont know if thats an example of duality rather than a contrast of opposites


William Blake absolutely loved that one, As did a lot of Romantics.


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Originally posted by Ymir
Waffles vs. Pancakes.

I can never decide what to have for breakfast.


eek!


Food
Vegetarian vs Vegan
Meat eaters vs non-mean eaters


(again, I am not dividing people, please don't see it this way, what this helps us to see is that it's natural for us to have at least one duality argument in our core purpose in life (religious vs nonreligious, for example)...btw, that was funny, waffles are the ubber class of pancakes, lol.


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but you act as if ignoring the DNA aspect of our duality is somehow going to make everything to away, "everything in moderation" yes, even religious zealots say that, and yes, they are on one side of the argument when it comes to secular vs religious...there is nothing wrong with being honest with ourselves about this, really, it doesn't change things by hiding what we think about things. Democrats vs Republican (I doubt we will have a third party system anytime soon).

Politics
Democrats vs Republican

Witchcraft
the circle (female) vs the dot (male)

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be creative.


If you only accept one aspect of duality, your only accepting a half of the universe and not all. If you argue soley in absolutes, then you can never make exceptions.


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Theres a strong need for many of the above. Its alright that there are two sides to things and it is good and part of who we are. That goes as long as one side is not clearly committing wrong acts that everyone agrees is wrong.

Reality vs. Fantasy...yes that is the one I like the most. I am not a big fan or reality sometimes.


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That goes as long as one side is not clearly committing wrong acts that everyone agrees is wrong.



The Majority isn't always right in it's view though. Whenever a Populuem argument is brought up to resolve an issue, that means the issue is not fully understood.

The Majority Vs the Individual

Here are it's Substratums:

Democracy Vs Despotism
Masses Vs Individual
Society Vs The Individual


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I was actually trying to catagorize good vs evil under the human perspective, but i guess it works just as well as a stand alone idea.


also i think you think to much, do people ever tell you that wink
I old her she thinks too little oftentimes.


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Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
The Majority isn't always right. Whenever a populuem argument is brought up to resolve an issue, that means the issue is not fully understood.

The Majority Vs the Individual


yup, a lot of people have Me against the World complex...even in some heroic movies, it's the lone ranger against the world (of crime).


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yup, a lot of people have Me against the World complex...even in some heroic movies, it's the lone ranger against the world (of crime).

I added more BTW. . .


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Theres a strong need for many of the above. Its alright that there are two sides to things and it is good and part of who we are. That goes as long as one side is not clearly committing wrong acts that everyone agrees is wrong.

Reality vs. Fantasy...yes that is the one I like the most. I am not a big fan or reality sometimes.


Yeah, I think most of us are on this board b/c we love sci-fi or comics (x-man was/is my favorite) either when we were little kids or even still ...


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