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American Whistleblowers Tortured
quote: Whistleblowers on Fraud Facing Penalties
By DEBORAH HASTINGS 08.24.07, 3:16 PM ET
One after another, the men and women who have stepped forward to report corruption in the massive effort to rebuild Iraq have been vilified, fired and demoted.
Or worse.
For daring to report illegal arms sales, Navy veteran Donald Vance says he was imprisoned by the American military in a security compound outside Baghdad and subjected to harsh interrogation methods.
There were times, huddled on the floor in solitary confinement with that head-banging music blaring dawn to dusk and interrogators yelling the same questions over and over, that Vance began to wish he had just kept his mouth shut.
He had thought he was doing a good and noble thing when he started telling the FBI about the guns and the land mines and the rocket-launchers - all of them being sold for cash, no receipts necessary, he said. He told a federal agent the buyers were Iraqi insurgents, American soldiers, State Department workers, and Iraqi embassy and ministry employees.
The seller, he claimed, was the Iraqi-owned company he worked for, Shield Group Security Co.
"It was a Wal-Mart (nyse: WMT - news - people ) for guns," he says. "It was all illegal and everyone knew it."
So Vance says he blew the whistle, supplying photos and documents and other intelligence to an FBI agent in his hometown of Chicago because he didn't know whom to trust in Iraq.
For his trouble, he says, he got 97 days in Camp Cropper, an American military prison outside Baghdad that once held Saddam Hussein, and he was classified a security detainee.
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007.../ap4052736.html
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Aug 26th, 2007 02:44 AM
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Re: American Whistleblowers Tortured
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That's horrible, but I'm not really surprised.
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Aug 26th, 2007 04:28 AM
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Aug 26th, 2007 04:32 AM
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Now that is absolutely horrible if it's true. I'd like to see some follow up stories on it, though.
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Aug 26th, 2007 06:20 AM
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I wasn't really expecting this... Assholes
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Aug 26th, 2007 11:50 AM
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the US is becoming the 4th Reich
Aug 26th, 2007 05:13 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Bicnarok
the US is becoming the 4th Reich
How the hell did you reach that conclusion?
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Aug 26th, 2007 06:14 PM
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I thought Walmart sold guns anyway.
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Aug 26th, 2007 10:17 PM
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Re: American Whistleblowers Tortured
quote: (post ) Hopefully this will get some decent coverage.
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Aug 27th, 2007 12:53 AM
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Hilarity, IMO.
You don't tattle on people; you are supposed to do that shit anonymously. Did that douche consult with a lawyer before doing something like that? (That question is rhetorical, obviously.)
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by RedAlertv2
Hopefully this will get some decent coverage.
probably wont, unfortunately
quote: (post ) Originally posted by dadudemon
Hilarity, IMO.
You don't tattle on people; you are supposed to do that shit anonymously. Did that douche consult with a lawyer before doing something like that? (That question is rhetorical, obviously.)
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Aug 27th, 2007 01:21 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Kinneary
Now that is absolutely horrible if it's true. I'd like to see some follow up stories on it, though.
Yea it is horrible but we don't know the whole story.So hearing the whole story may change some of our minds!jm
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
Yea it is horrible but we don't know the whole story.So hearing the whole story may change some of our minds!jm
Unless he sold the guns to terrorists himself and then decided to come clean about it, then no...
And even if that was the case then I still wouldn't really feel that this was justified.
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