What is the true purpose of a career or other institutions?
Have you ever wondered if certain careers are just used to institutionalize or program you to think a certain way, meaning, it's not about earning income and progressing, as much as it's used to measure who you are and then, according to your character, pit you in situations to "challenge" you. So, basically, they don't need YOU, as much as they need to see if you would confirm. Let's say you are a window artist, and you picked that career b/c you like it, so, now, the lesson isn't if you can do what you like, it's if you could work under condition x, or y, or z. Silly and I know it sounds more like Wizard of Oz....think to these institutions: marriage, children, parents, etc.
Marriage isn't for everone
Some think that marriage, just like jobs/careers, and children...these are all stations in life to teach us lessons, some have graduated in certain lesson and may not need marriage or job/career (maybe independantly wealthy) or children to get to the next level.
If you think of all of those things as prescribed "lessons" others are forcing into that person (i love the word 'THAT' because it makes the person seem almost like an animal that needs to be forced into submission, nonhuman, THAT person) and forcing them that this is something that has to learned (outside of basic skills to do the work and getting along, I wonder if that's why stay at home jobs were so looked down upon, as people will have the skill and then, retain their character, which may not be desirable, even if they are a pleasant or friendly person, and in order to teach them, they must work at a particular job (around x type of people to see how you treat them or how they treat you), that'll teach them a desired institutionalizing lesson (could be against that persons philosophy or for it) along with the income to reward that lesson; or marriage and/or job/career the same way. Debt could be seen the same way, if a person is in debt, they are now at the whim of "learning" lesson and that means they may lack a lot of control and are in NEED, and the more control they lack, the more the ones who are into teaching lessons will enjoy teaching them whatever they see as institutionizing or moral or right. One may think that mes'g boards are the same way, a plateform to find out what you think, and later, you'll find "lessons" based on what was disclosed, funny how that works?
Some think parents are the same way, that they are here to bless or punish depending on past lives, and so, they are always going to be your parents and has full authority to either bless or curse you. And others think parents are just to help facilate growth until that child reaches adulthood and can no longer be part of that system of bless/curse. It depends on what aspect of spirituality and systems of control or bahavior modifications that you believe in. Some romantize it so that it taste better going down.
It's like, let's break that person's liberty or see how far to push their liberty, all awhile they are in NEED of income. (and i mean civil liberty or right to yourself or self-ownership, self-thought self-identity).
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Last edited by Czarina_Czarina on Aug 28th, 2007 at 09:41 PM
Im not sure I completely follow. In the society of today, its all about conformity though, and if you dont follow a "real goal" -like, get a job that has a good name to it -like a doctor or something, you lose social status.
Its not really about learning lessons, as it is shaping you into the system to a point where there is no chance of you breaking from it. Like school to a large degree, 70% or more of what you learn you forget or dont use at all, but you are at the same time being drilled into a routine and pattern that ensures you will be "prepared" for the lightspeed world and not get out of sync with it. ...I failed that.
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Those fought and died these long passed years, the time soon come and shed our last tears..."
I guess the question is, are people here to teach others a lesson, or to teach themselves lessons based on their own character? responses have been so negative, i have decided not to read any responses unless the name is unfamilar or has never felt the need to go on the defense/attack.
Do I look like a guy with a plan? You know what I am? I’m a dog chasing cars. I wouldn’t know what to do with one if I caught it. You know, I just do things.
If you imagine the mind, as a circle, I don't care where you place it, in the brain, or out in ether, it doesn't matter if it's housed/bound in time/dominion or unbound in time/dominion...if you look at this picture, you'll see why my thoughts aren't your thoughts, someone intrepreted this as me thinking I was better, and I was so confused as to why someone would place hierarchy based on personal-ownership of THOUGHT/MIND, so, remember that 5th grade story about the - and .
both the line and doubt are perspectives of one another, rotate the dot (.), esp. at 90 deg and you have a line (-), so the degree or perspective shapes how we think, right or wrong. now, i wanted to illustrate this further, and show that both circles are on the same plane, so one isn't ABOVE the other, they are on the same level of conscousness. Please replace "me" with "you" and replace "you" with "other", someone else in your life, brother, uncle, mother, neighbor, co-worker.
When looking at this Venn-diagram, notice that the circles do not intersect, what does that mean? the dominion of my mind and other mind are not intersecting without the (hopefully) free will of both parties. And you can see the other mind, as stretching outward with vectors or directional lines, yet, it's still not part of the left person's thought life.
Remeber the story about the man who told me he was somehow effected by the thoughts of others, imagine their thoughts as little vectors coming out of their circle/mind/brain, and reaching him and him picking up on interference and knowing there is a difference b/t his reality and theres. See how that happens? It's just a basic illustration to show that this "my thoughts are not your thoughts" is not inherently heirarchical, and even if it was, how would the other mind have any effect if it's not possessing the other person's thoughts or domain.
I'll show another picture of two minds possessing each other, and look again at the first pic and notice the difference in interference or possessing.