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No Jail for have a go heroes
Jack "Batman" Straw
By GEORGE PASCOE-WATSON
Political Editor
SEPTEMBER 27, 2007
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HAVE-a-go heroes will be allowed to defend themselves without fear of prosecution, ministers declared today.
Those who use “reasonable force” will have a new guarantee of immunity.
It will apply to anyone who finds an intruder in their home or tries to catch a villain in the street.
Justice Secretary Jack Straw declared people who stand up for justice must be protected by the law. He fears too many turn a blind eye to crime for fear of the police charging them with violence.
He wants to encourage a culture of justice where criminals face prosecution, not those who do the right thing.
He told the Labour conference in Bournemouth: “The justice system must not only work on the side of people who do the right thing as good citizens. It must also be seen to work on their side.
“Enforcing the law, securing justice, is not just a matter for ‘them’. It’s a matter for all of us.”
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Mr Straw, who has waded in to stop criminals 4 times added: “I know from personal experience that you have all of a millisecond to judge about whether to intervene.
“In such a situation, the law on self-defence works much better than most people think, but not as well as it could or should.”
I don't know, compared to the two other U.K. vigilantes, "The Angle Grinder Man" and that katana wielding bastard who beheaded a criminal, this Jack Straw seems ho-hum.
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He is a politician, we breed them tough, Neil Kinnock , an ex labour leader, beat two guys up in an Indian restaraunt toilet for insulting his wife. I doubt dubya would do that.
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but yes, dubya would never do that. he would just have him kidnapped and dragged off to guantanimo to face months/years of solitary confinement and torture.
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The "W" is physically tough... he's stocky, has a block-like head and a decent set of knuckles; he's also a very dirty fighter, which would be a plus in a free-for-all street fight. Rampant Nepotism, cronyism, corruption and overall failed politics aside, the "W" seems like a brawler; I am confident he could take out most world leaders in the Thunderdome.
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It wasn't senseless if two guys pawed your woman and made comments to make her feel worthless. I think you'd act in someway. I don't think many men wouldn't. I think it's a case of standing up for what's right. He asked them to apologise first and they were continually abuse. Neil was a "have a go" hero.
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I take it back it could be a good match up. Neil played Rugby for Wales as a youth. I think we should get a time machine like in Bill and Ted, some ether and catch them both in their prime. Put them in a steel cage ala the WWE and let the mayhem ensue. I give odds as evens.
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"pawing"? well if by that you mean phisically imposing/assaulting, then i feel he was in the right. if they just said rude comments i dont feel he was legally justified in assaulting them.
a spoken insult is not a crime. assault is.
he could have notified the authorities of this harassment.
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They pawed, one stroke her hair and made suggestive comment as she sat have dinner with her husband who was leader of the opposition at the time. I don't think any man could stand for that in front of him. In the U.K. a spoken insult is a crime. It's incitement to cause a breach of the peace or a number of other charges.
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wow. i guess laws of conduct are far more strict over there. in america that part about stroking her hair would likely go over as justification for self defense, but not simple words (unless of course those words were threatening/endangering as opposed to just emotionally hurtful)
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Face it... he beat up two assholes and got away with it because he's a politician. Moral of the story, don't beat the crap out of some scum, even if they deserve it, unless you're connected.
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