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Brit's rant on 'Sordi' Arabia

Just received this in an email, thought it was interesting. He verbalised many of my personal opinions and I doubt I'm the only one to agree with a lot of what he's saying.

Any thoughts? smile

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Re: Brit's rant on 'Sordi' Arabia

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Originally posted by Syren
Just received this in an email, thought it was interesting. He verbalised many of my personal opinions and I doubt I'm the only one to agree with a lot of what he's saying.

Any thoughts? smile

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I watched half of the video and now I'm half as pissed as I would be had I watched the entire thing. Seems like a shitty state of affairs.


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He has some highlights in his speech. He's entitle to his opinion.

But for me....he seem a bit too Eurocentric....too much "They" (muslims) agaisn't "us" (europeans)


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Yeah, it's rubbish really; being fair to people and not inherently linking terrorism to a religion.

It's a big ask, especially from an elderly member of the British community who probably agrees with the notion that political correctness is bad. Cos as Stewart Lee once proposed, these people would probably prefer it if we were back in the day where England was for the "English" (A.k.a: white people) and other races had to endure being referred to as "Jungle bunnies" and "Black spots". People like this guy are using politcal correctness as a reason to revert back to a time that is thankfully gone. He strikes me as one of those "Oh you can't say ANYTHING anymore." cronebags.

Mighty fine suggestion there; let's run him out of town and dump him in a river, then going on to cite our desire to hear people out as a negative.

It's really shit, being fair to people.

How is a doctor of one religion refusing to treat someone any worse than a Christian doctor refusing to carry out an abortion?

I'd like this video a lot more of it wasn't filled with reactionary xenophobia. He's slightly implying that he's not so much talking about all people who follow Islam, which is fine, but the extremists. So why make remarks about women running the marathon wearing a "tent"?

It's people like him that make me despise this country's people.

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It had its ups and downs.

I did not like how he exudes "anti-islam", but I do like that he brings up the fact that no one is aloud to disagree with Islam in anyway or they bring damnation upon themselves.

Equal rights in Islam? Hardly.


I like the point he brings up about getting stoned for personal affairs. We are no longer in the stone age, we as humans should have outgrown public executions by now...barbaric, imo. But is that the Islamic belief? I don't know.

In America, this gent would have more people agreeing with him on almost all points.

He is a bigot and a grouch. I don't like change either, but we should try to accommodate and be accepting of other cultures as long as it doesn't hurt the others.


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The English are in no place to be calling out other countries on maturity or anything like that.

We do live in a country where more people consider it worthwhile to pay to vote for Big Brother than to vote, for free, in an election about who runs this country. "We're" only concerned about how the country is run when it involves "foreigners". It's dumb.

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I dun get it.


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he's crafty at mixing all of islam with radical islam and terrorism. a bigot battling bigots. who wins? who cares?


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I dun get it.

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So much for a tastefully clever, nonverbal approach (note to self: keep day job).

Regarding the "rant": Some points seemed right on the mark (eg, political correctness); others...I would've liked more information on, and proof (eg, Sawdi Arabia's agenda)


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he speaks some truth but smears it with horseshit, essentially rendering it all horseshit. im not saying that your opinion is horseshit. perhaps your own bias and frustrations have blinded you to his fallacious method of presenting the problem.


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The world always ran like that and will continue to be so. Thats how Christianity came about.


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The English are in no place to be calling out other countries on maturity or anything like that.

We do live in a country where more people consider it worthwhile to pay to vote for Big Brother than to vote, for free, in an election about who runs this country. "We're" only concerned about how the country is run when it involves "foreigners". It's dumb.

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I don't know why, but I always tend to agree with you, AC.

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I did not like how he exudes "anti-islam", but I do like that he brings up the fact that no one is aloud to disagree with Islam in anyway or they bring damnation upon themselves.

Equal rights in Islam? Hardly.


I like the point he brings up about getting stoned for personal affairs. We are no longer in the stone age, we as humans should have outgrown public executions by now...barbaric, imo. But is that the Islamic belief? I don't know.


Some would argue that "equal rights" don't exist at all - not myself, but others.

Nevertheless, you generalize when you condemn ALL of Islam for not practicing what we would consider "equal rights." You have to remember, for all our posing, we've supported what were extremely supressive régimes in the not-too-distant past for our own gain, including Franco in Spain - and, indeed, one could probably argue in the present as well, if the pandering to China is taken into consideration.


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People who say political correctness has gone mad are generally people who think they deserve the freedom to make racist remarks and then say "But I'm not racist, you can't say anything anymore.".

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Some would argue that "equal rights" doesn't exist at all - not myself, but others. Nevertheless, you are generalizing.


I was referring to his gender reference.

Did you watch the video?


Also, what do you disagree with AC about? (careful, AC will walk all over you.)


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People who say political correctness has gone mad are generally people who think they deserve the freedom to make racist remarks and then say "But I'm not racist, you can't say anything anymore.".

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I was referring to his gender reference.

Did you watch the video?


Also, what do you disagree with AC about? (careful, AC will walk all over you.)


I only watched part of the video, and emended my post.
BTW: I said I AGREED with AC, LOL.


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So much for a tastefully clever, nonverbal approach (note to self: keep day job).

Regarding the "rant": Some points seemed right on the mark (eg, political correctness); others...I would've liked more information on, and proof (eg, Sawdi Arabia's agenda)


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I was referring to his gender reference.

Did you watch the video?


Also, what do you disagree with AC about? (careful, AC will walk all over you.)


I thought Melcórë agreed with AC smile


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