tsilamini
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Possible Assassination Attempt Against Obama Foiled
quote: Report: Four Arrested in Connection to Plot to Kill Obama
CBS4 in Denver is reporting at least four people are under arrest in connection with a possible plot to kill Barack Obama at his Thursday night acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention. All of the men are being held on either drug or weapons charges. One of the suspects told authorities they were going to shoot Obama from a high vantage point using a rifle sighted at 750 yards. Law enforcement sources told CBS4 that one of the suspects was directly asked if they had come to Denver to kill Obama. He responded in the affirmative. On Sunday, police arrested Tharin Gartrell during a routine traffic stop in a suburb of Denver. Inside his rental pickup truck, police found two rifles, including one with a scope; a bulletproof vest; boxes of ammunition; walkie-talkies; and suspected narcotics. Authorities then went to a local hotel to arrest an associate of Gartrell named Shawn Robert Adolf. Police arrested him after he jumped out of a sixth floor hotel window trying to avoid capture. Sources said Adolf was wearing a swastika and is thought to have ties to white supremacist organizations. The FBI and Secret Service are investigating the alleged plot.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/8/26/headlines#1
quote: FBI looks into Denver reports of threat on Obama
By STEVEN K. PAULSON 1 day ago
DENVER (AP) Federal authorities are looking into reports that a man arrested with rifles, ammunition and drugs in his truck may have made threats against Barack Obama, officials said Monday.
Two other men were arrested in the case.
"It's premature to say that it was a valid threat or that these folks have the ability to carry it out," said a U.S. government official familiar with the investigation. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing.
Obama will be in Denver later this week to accept the Democratic nomination for president.
FBI spokeswoman Kathy Wright confirmed the FBI was investigating the reports but declined to elaborate. The Joint Information Center a command set up by Denver, state and federal authorities to field media inquiries during the Democratic convention said it had no immediate comment.
Tharin Gartrell, 28, was arrested during a traffic stop early Sunday by police in the eastern Denver suburb of Aurora. In his truck, officers found two rifles, including one with a scope; a bulletproof vest; boxes of ammunition; walkie-talkies; and suspected narcotics, said Aurora police Detective Marcus Dudley.
Police alerted federal authorities, who soon arrested Nathan Johnson, 32, at a hotel in Denver, Dudley said. A third man, Shawn Robert Adolf, 33, was arrested at a suburban Glendale hotel, Dudley said.
Adolf allegedly tried to escape officers by jumping from a sixth-floor window. He was hospitalized and was being held on $1 million bond for several outstanding warrants involving drug charges. Johnson also was being held on drug charges and his bond was unknown, Dudley said.
It wasn't known if the three men had attorneys, Dudley said.
Dudley didn't say what tied the men together but that more arrests were possible. One of the rifles was stolen, and authorities had traced it to Kansas, Dudley said. He declined to say to whom it belonged.
Aurora police alerted federal officials because of heightened security surrounding the Democratic convention, Dudley said.
"Clearly we found there are federal implications otherwise we would not have notified them," he said. "The weapons clearly would cause great concern."
U.S. Attorney Troy Eid said the case was under investigation. "We're absolutely confident there is no credible threat to the candidate, the Democratic National Convention, or the people of Colorado," Eid said in a statement.
Officials with the FBI, Secret Service, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, and Aurora police set a news conference for Tuesday afternoon.
Law enforcers in Denver are trying to find out whether the reported threats to Obama were valid. "It could also turn out that these were nothing but a bunch of knuckleheads, meth-heads," the U.S. government official said.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5...w8NcFQD92POLUO0
not that I think it is overly credible, but creepy as all anything.
Just a question of technicality, who then becomes the Democratic nominee? Is it the vp nominee? Is it Clinton?
EDIT: if the video isn't working, try here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuN4qh6meR4
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Aug 27th, 2008 02:33 PM
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Heh . . . Adolf.
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Aug 27th, 2008 02:54 PM
FistOfThe North
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Wow, man.
People have attempted to kill Obama.
That's depressing to know. That views/ideals still haven't changed even with people saying that they have.
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Aug 27th, 2008 03:43 PM
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FOTN, you forgot to mention that every white person in America is a potential suspect.
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Aug 27th, 2008 03:47 PM
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Is this even news?
If Barack "The One" Obama's name is mentioned, it's news.
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Aug 27th, 2008 04:24 PM
Grand-Moff-Gav
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Wow, man.
People have attempted to kill Obama.
That's depressing to know. That views/ideals still haven't changed even with people saying that they have.
Yeah...the say they like Democrats I just don't believe them though...remember the Kennedy Brothers...
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Aug 27th, 2008 04:24 PM
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Wow. That's just really sad. Wouldn't it just drop down to the VP candidate? o.o
Aug 27th, 2008 04:30 PM
Grand-Moff-Gav
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by washedmemories
Wow. That's just really sad. Wouldn't it just drop down to the VP candidate? o.o
Hilary would storm the Convention, she has the delegates!
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Aug 27th, 2008 04:32 PM
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That's not how I heard the story!
They were after Hillary NOT Obama! She's the one that needs the attention. Damn be the day that the Clintons DON'T get any attention!
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Aug 27th, 2008 04:38 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by FistOfThe North
That's depressing to know. That views/ideals still haven't changed even with people saying that they have.
Because of less than half a dozen idiots, the whole society hasn't changed its views?
Aug 27th, 2008 04:52 PM
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Havent most presidents had attempts planned against them?
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Aug 27th, 2008 05:05 PM
botankus
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Hilary would storm the Convention, she has the delegates!
Maybe she's behind it. Damn, that'd be one sneaky bizatch!
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Aug 27th, 2008 05:08 PM
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lol
so nobody else thinks this is significant?
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Aug 27th, 2008 05:42 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Wow, man.
People have attempted to kill Obama.
That's depressing to know. That views/ideals still haven't changed even with people saying that they have.
"Sources said Adolf was wearing a swastika and is thought to have ties to white supremacist organizations."
I'm fairly certain the Aryan Nation (and the like) has said their views have changed. I am also fairly certain the views of the Aryan Nation (and the like) don't represent a large portion of America. But that's a guess as I haven't done a poll.
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Aug 27th, 2008 05:51 PM
tsilamini
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it was reported that the first suspect was a member of the "Sons of Silence" biker gang.
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Aug 27th, 2008 06:00 PM
Grand-Moff-Gav
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Is anyone surprised?
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Aug 27th, 2008 06:28 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Is anyone surprised?
That's more what I'm getting @
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Aug 27th, 2008 09:10 PM
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i'm sure the whitehouse gets a few intelligence briefings every day as part of the PDB about possible threats of assassination along with the terrorism briefs...how many of those are credible is anyones guess
i think if there is a genuine threat to Obama then it will be before he is president (if he does) because it becomes infinitely more difficult due to the much higher levels of security and intelligence gathering on threats to a sitting president
then again...all it really takes is one loner nutcase with a gun...
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Aug 27th, 2008 09:23 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Is anyone surprised?
No because there will always be a dumb fracking nut job that will try to assassinate a potential president or try to even after a candidate gets into office
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Aug 27th, 2008 10:36 PM
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