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Immortality: Can it be achieved?

I've read up on how scientists are trying to make humans immortal but three things come to mind.

1. Can it be achieved.

2. Who wants to actually be immortal? A prolonged lifespan would be nice, but immortality? I'm not sure if I'd want to be around "forever."

3. Wouldn't this make our planet even more chaotic? Think about it. Humans get a hold of this type of power, and of course, the bad people begin all kinds of killing sprees and the like.

What do you all think about this particular subject?

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How could there be killing sprees if everyone is immortal?


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The bad people....


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But I mean, how are they planning on killing immortal people?


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How could there be killing sprees if everyone is immortal?


Immortality and invulnerability are two separate things. Just because one is immortal does not mean he can't be killed.

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....bad people?


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Why are you so fascinated by the phrase "bad people?" It means people are not intent on doing the right thing. Do you understand now?


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Why are you so fascinated by the phrase "bad people?" It means people are not intent on doing the right thing. Do you understand now?



Ha! Bad people....

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Bad people do bad things, but do they do them badly?


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I would definitely make myself immortal if I had the capability. I dont see any reason not to, if I ever got bored of life a few centuries down the road I could always just kill myself. We talked about this whole concept in one of my classes last year, ts really the ultimate form of existentialism. As for making life more chaotic, I almost think it might be the opposite, as people would literally have to live with the consequences of their actions for eternity. I'd probably be a lot more dedication to conserving nature, for example, if I knew that I would have to personally live with the burden of an overly polluted planet. And I would definitely not want to kill anyone, as spending hundreds of years in prison is hardly appealing. The biggest issue I see is overpopulation, but I think that you could easily get people to agree to sterilization in return for immortality.


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Immortality and invulnerability are two separate things. Just because one is immortal does not mean he can't be killed.
Um, no...eternal youth/not dieing of old age or disease and invulnerability are two different things. Immortality is immortality. But you specifically mean biological immortality, which is different than immortality, something that you seem to think different about.

But either way, I'd take an extended youth to my life, but I'd want to die, I would imagine, sooner or later.


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well if you consider the fact that atoms donīt contain any matter, but are a form of energy (maybe caused by the higgs). Then we probably are immortal, but not in a material sense stay as one body forever sense.

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Why are you so fascinated by the phrase "bad people?" It means people are not intent on doing the right thing. Do you understand now?


.....right thing?


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Bad people do bad things, but do they do them badly?


Actually, they do them well. laughing


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Um, no...eternal youth/not dieing of old age or disease and invulnerability are two different things. Immortality is immortality. But you specifically mean biological immortality, which is different than immortality, something that you seem to think different about.

But either way, I'd take an extended youth to my life, but I'd want to die, I would imagine, sooner or later.


More or less, that's what I meant.

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Originally posted by Markus Corvinus
I've read up on how scientists are trying to make humans immortal but three things come to mind.

1. Can it be achieved.

2. Who wants to actually be immortal? A prolonged lifespan would be nice, but immortality? I'm not sure if I'd want to be around "forever."

3. Wouldn't this make our planet even more chaotic? Think about it. Humans get a hold of this type of power, and of course, the bad people begin all kinds of killing sprees and the like.

What do you all think about this particular subject?


1. not yet but i belive it may be possible. Perhaps through cloning organs you could create youthful body parts for older people, we can already replace many parts of a body, the more important parts like Brain is difficult however so it may be a long time.

2. Very few people who are not massively ignorent

3. Its not power, your just not dieing of old age, although I think there will be chaos, just not the type your thinking. Ime more thinking along hte lines of Overpopulation, economical breaks in soceity, people being unsatisfied with life etc.


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Immortality may one day be a possibility with cybernetics. Nano technology is advancing rapidly. So, perhaps a thousand years from now when we have the technology of rapid regeneration with the aid of nanotechnology, immortality will be a reality. However, everything dies, nothing is constant. I don't see immortality ever being achieved. It's probably not far fetched to believe that we can one day apply technology to our bodies that can sustain our bones and organs for a vastly extended period of time but we don't even know how our electrical system or brain, functions, entirely. So, we have a long way to go before we can even fathom how immortality may be achieved. I think starting on brain cell regeneration is probably the best place to start though haha.


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from a physical standpoint...in terms of the human body...i doubt it could be made to last forever...and i know this sounds cliched...but if you could transfer all memories etc from a person to a digital format...and everything that makes up a personality...who's to say a person couldn't live on in some form indefinitely


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havent looked it up on google but I seem to remember something about several different/seperate research groups that were all working on the same thing using mice on diets/supplements etc and could make the mice live to 1000 years old (mice years) by only eating just a tiny piece of lettuce each day or something like that???and humans could be next (human years...lol)....this was like 10 years ago I heard about this...guy I knew had this stuff recorded on vhs...the main group who made the most progress was funded by extremely rich old people...lol...dont remember much more about it though


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havent looked it up on google but I seem to remember something about several different/seperate research groups that were all working on the same thing using mice on diets/supplements etc and could make the mice live to 1000 years old (mice years) by only eating just a tiny piece of lettuce each day or something like that???and humans could be next (human years...lol)....this was like 10 years ago I heard about this...guy I knew had this stuff recorded on vhs...the main group who made the most progress was funded by extremely rich old people...lol...dont remember much more about it though


If I'm thinking what your thinking, it has something to do with low calorie diets increasing life span.


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