The again. What he shows or doesn't show in films isn't neccesarily what he is really capable of so he may well be highly trained in both but because he tends not to utilise it in films then people assume he isn't trained.
Yes...I know that...Still doesn't mean that what he shows in his films is representative of what he is actually trained in. They can make Keanu Reeves and Laurence Fishburne look like expertly trained martial artists...Is this the case?...No...What you see in the films isn't a true reflection of ability.
Hence it's false to make claims that he has knowledge of grapples and takedowns based on a scene from a movie...Same as it is to say he has no knowledge of them because very few scenes have him using those skills.
grapples and holds aren't used in films all that much because they're not dramatic and visually what people look for in a fight movie.
besides these actors would be given 6 months of training b4 stepping into the ring.
i was just saying even choreography they are being trained by someone how to apply the moves not saying he would be a master but would have at least one known basic move.
Which is my point. The movies aren't reflective of what the fighters actually know.
My opinion is that the majority of the actor/martial artist mixes are not particularly good at either. Typically the choreography makes them look more skilled than they are. Although their training is better than your average Joe.
Dude, did you watch the special features on Matrix Reloaded? Keanu Reeves was demonstrating some of the Kung Fu and he was looking fairly quick and bad@ss. There's no way Keanu didn't take something away from thousands of hours of hard work he put into the fighting in the Matrix movies. They trained months for their roles and it tooks months to shoot.
Case in point, right after shooting the final film, I wouldn't want to get into a fight with Keanu. He could probably strike fast and hard. (no h0m0)
No...I said he clearly isn't a master but the films managed to portray him as such. He had more than the average training time that actors get but does this mean that he'd actually be able to fight and hold his own against genuinely great fighters?...No.
being a MA'er doesnt mean he translates into a competent MMA... we know he knows how to fight tournament style but i think he would and did suck as a MMA. you could tell he was getting rocked by those punches. if they hadnt started ground fighting he would have got his @$$ kicked.
he lucked into a grapple hold and the sad part he was given a rather inexperience fighter to boot. in the long run he isnt going to make it MMA if they give him more competent fighters.
only if he morphs but that would be cheating. he could make more money fighting celebrities instead of MMA. he should use his status to try and get celebrity fights.
Why do you say that? The guy has a background in martial arts; he's obviously stepped up his training regime to compete in the MMA octagon and he's in decent shape.
Only thing going against him is his age, starting to professionally compete at this level; being 35-36, can't be easy.
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