No amount of evidence will ever convince me that humans are capable of altering their environment. Now excuse me while I drive into a city via major highway to buy seeds from Pakistan that have been adapted to my local climate which I will plant around the town reservoir.
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Nope, there's no proof that humans affect the climate.
Now I invite those US Politicians and Rush Limbaugh to drink from certain "natural" lakes and waters. Maybe eat certain fish and game, while they're at it.
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"WASHINGTON — Lower levels of oxygen in the Earth's oceans, particularly off the United States' Pacific Northwest coast, could be another sign of fundamental changes linked to global climate change, scientists say."
That's a big could be.
"appear to be spreading"
Can they be a little more definite?
Maybe this is the real reason.
"Commonly, ocean "dead zones" have been linked to agricultural runoff and other pollution coming down major rivers such as the Mississippi or the Columbia . One of the largest of the 400 or so ocean dead zones is in the Gulf of Mexico , near the mouth of the Mississippi ."
""It is consistent with models of global warming, but the time frame is too short to know whether it is a trend or a weather phenomenon," Johnson said. "
Is this the models of global warming that were found to show the Earth warming regardless of the information put into the model?
"Scientists are unsure how low oxygen levels will affect the ocean ecosystem."
Imagine taking the oxygen out of the air. The exact effects are hard to pin down but as far as pretty much every animal on the planet is concerned it would be bad. They're called "dead zones" for a reason.*
*Because stuff living there dies
I'm inclined to agree with this.
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changing the equilibrium of a large system supporting life is ALWAYS a bag thing for the life in it. at least in the forseeable short term {i.e. couple of centuries}
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just b/c urine is sterile it doesnt mean certain chemicals dont make it through the system like medications, maybe that is what is killing the the fishies.
Utter bollocks, and even if it were true the creatures of the world will have to adapt won´t they like they have throughout the history of the planet, its called evolution.
I think homeostasis is the word you're looking for.
And, that would still be a slight misnomer. On just a slightly larger timescale than a human life, we can compare the "present" state with the "original" state and see a change...in many different ecosystems.
It's just a "different" homeostatic state, but it does change.
On topic: Humans disturb the homeostasis and the nautral changes to the homeostatic dynamic (seems like an oxymoron..lulz). We are turds that stink up places.
But that reminds me of this:
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It's humor, don't knock it for seriousness!
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i thought homeostasis only applied to living things. dont tell me ur a gaia theorist now.
1. that wud still in all probability lead to mankinf dying out, now u can be non human and not care but if were human.......
2. this isnt the kind of change that has happened before though, poisioning the system, changing the oceaning currents, etc, who knows what wud be left after the biotic life has had time to adjust.
3. most species just barely survived the last few BIG changes that happened. seeing as the oceans are the most "protective" regions that can be provided to life to survive in large changed, poisioning them migh unravel all life.
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